mattb75

Hi all, The car is a UK market car, pre-registered to the main Citroen dealer in Manchester, then re-registered the following day to me! No doubt this helps the local dealer get his bonus for the month which will more than cover the cost of the discount to me! You still get the 3 year warranty and 1 year Citroen assist policy so it's like having a new car - just less cost (around £4.5k less than list :rolleyes: :) :) B) ) Unlikely to make a meet wozza - wife has well and truely taken possession of the motor and won't let it out of her sight!! All the best to you all

Well guys - I said I'd post back when the deal had gone through and this morning a shiny new 56 plate Citroen C4 VTR+ 5dr in Black turned up on a transporter. Just got to send the bankers draft via Royal Mail to them this afternoon and job's done!!! :lol:

Totally agree lupin - There used to be a website called notsoaccurate.com which was put together by a guy called David Elgar. He was a retired engineer who knew a bit about electronics and proved that the timings on a GATSO camera photo could be set with a gap of more than 0.5 seconds between each exposure but the timings were shown on the photos as still being 0.5 seconds apart. This effectively meant you could be driving at 30 in a 30mph zone but be flashed by the camera and the photo 'evidence' used to prove you were driving at 36-37mph if the timing was 0.1 seconds longer (forgive my maths - it's an example :o ) Anyway, the guy was done for speeding and did the usual non-disclosure of details process, and then did his investigations on the camera in question, he found a catalogue of problems with the location, road markings and timings and basically brought a prosecution back against the safety camera partnership. They tried to drop the speeding charge - which he refused to let them. He was then threatened in his home by the police (and captured the moments on camera) and his website has now disappeared - does make you wonder what the 'establishment' are doing to dampen down the media and any public resistance to their survelliance doesn't it?

Slightly off topic I know - but in the same vein! Does anyone know how much lane coverage the SPECS average speed cameras have on the motorways? The reason for the question is that I drive through two set's each day (M6 and M1) and on the M6 set there is one camera which is 'covering' all three lanes at the moment. Aside from the alignment (which is pointing slightly upwards) I can't believe 1 camera has the field of vision to cover 3 lanes of traffic. What also makes me question it, is that when the DVLA do there vehicle checks on the motorway they position one fixed camera over each lane - why do that when the SPECS - spec cameras can in theory cover all three. Any Camera engineer's out there?!?

There used to be a guideline that you could drive upto 10% of the stated speed limit plus 2 or 3 mph (can't remember which). so, Posted speed ... Possible max speed 30mph ... 35-36mph 40mph ... 46-47mph 50mph ... 57-58mph 60mph ... 68-69mph 70mph ... 79-80mph I drive around 250miles a day for work - most of which is on the motorway and have noticed that since the Highways Agency patrol's started you see less and less marked police cars on the motorway. This is because the Highways Agency vehicles have been deliberately marked up to look like a police patrol vehicle until you are very close up - so the effect of decreasing the motorway speed to the limit has been achieved at no expense of the local police force. The safest way to avoid a ticket is simply not to speed - the realities of the modern motor vehicle mean that you probably will end up speeding at some point - particularly on 'rep roads' such as the M40. Key things to remember are :- * Don't speed through roadworks - most major route roadworks now (think M6 by Birmingham, M1 by Luton, M25 by Enfield) have average speed cameras to ensure they catch more people - use the C4 speed limiter to keep you legal :lol: * Look for extra aerials on 'normal' cars - most mobile phones no longer require a seperate aerial - so the only people who have need for the 'hedgehog' look are the Police. * Speed limits displayed on central reservation signs or the normal overhead gantries are advisory only - you can excess them without penalty (upto the 70mph max of course <_< ). The only enforceable speed limits are ones shown with a red circle around them (i.e. Roadwork signs, M25/M40 variable speed sections). At the end of the day drive at a speed which feels safe for you, the car and the surroundings - if you are going to speed, respect the other road users who don't want to - but conversely don't try and slow other cars down who are speeding by sitting in the middle or outside lanes at 69mph when you can move over to the inside lane. Good luck and safe driving

Thanks for the posts - esp hertsnminds. I've took the plunge this morning and ordered from my first choice site "newregcars.co.uk". It's 9850 for the basic VTR+ 1.6 5dr plus £350 for metallic paint and £300 for delivery bringing it to £10,500 on the road. It will be built to order for the UK market, delivered to their 'dealer' and registered to them. They then re-register it to me and bring it to my door! If it works out ok, saves me 2k and the hassle of been patronised by a saleman I'm all for internet shopping :lol:

I'm looking to purchase a C4 VTR+ 1.6 5 door and have found a company on the internet which will sell a pre-registered one (no miles driven) for £10k (newregcars.co.uk). I gave my local dealer (who I've visited for test driving purposes) the opportunity of matching the price before I ordered online and he reckoned there was no way they could be selling UK-spec cars for that price. He said they must be imports and as a result I could have problems with the following :- Warranty work - the dealer's won't touch it Recalls - I wouldn't be notified Headlight alignment - would need new headlights Cat and CO2 emissions - set for continental spec rather than UK. and more...... Now I think he was just pushing the sale (for 2k more than the online price) and was trying a scare tactic but wondered if any of you have purchased either from newregcars.co.uk or an importer and what problems you've had (if any). Look forward to your thoughts