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Hi Ian replaced radio stalk and the original fault has gone away and the new stalk works with no eco mode :( paid 99p on ebay for the key blip re-code sync thingy info and it worked first time. the method is as follows- turn ignition on but do not start car. Press lock button for 10 seconds then release. turn ignition off and remove key. Wait 3 seconds then operate blip. every thing works, all is wonderfull with the world the birds start singing and the sun comes out! Ok I may be exaggerating a bit but that method worked, so one to remember for all us Citroen owners because this is sopposed to work on many Citroens. I can't believe the dealer said it would take 30 mins and charge £32.90 + Vat for somthing that took me 30 seconds and the average chimp could carry out. Thanks to all who helped with info and special thanks to iannez who has helped me from the start and kept coming back with more usefull info. all I can say is it has been emotional ;)

Hi Ian Thanks for the info. I have tried to do as you say until the point where everything stops for a short period(like the central locking taking a rest) then carried on. I have done this for 6 sets so to speak (apprx 40 key turns) do I just carry on? How long can this take and am I doing it correctly. I unlock the car remove key then try to lock with blip then I lock the car remove the key then try to unlock the car with the blip. Should there be a set time between key turn and blip press (does NASA have the same problems with the shuttle?) Help before I turn into Basil Faulty and give the car a damn good thrashing aaaarrgh! :(

Hi Been thinking (oh dear) you say I can reprogram the key? is it not the car at fault? I have read mention of re syncing I assume that is because the system has a rolling code change for security. I do not want to mess about with the blip if it is the car but I will bow to greater knowledge if that is the way forward. Any advice will be greatfuly recieved on wether I should re programe the key and how to do it. :P

Hi iannez The indicator lights do flash when locking and unlocing the car using the key all operates as if I had locked with blip. Anything else I can do?

Ok have ordered new stalk £13 and after I have fitted it and tested it myself this Friday have been told the only way to get my remote central locking working again is for the dealer to re-program the car which takes 30 minutes at a cost of £32.90 + Vat. Is this the only way to do it as it seems excessive to have to pay this for the sake of disconecting the battery. How do you replace a failing battery when the time comes?

further to my last post it now appears after leaving the car for a hour before unlocking it and starting up I am no longer in ecomode so there must have been something wrong with the stalk. now I have the problem of my remote central locking blip not working, has the battery disconnect caused this and how do I get it working again.

Hi iannez found release for stalk and removed it thanks but still have problem. tried the battery disconnect as you described but now have new problem, my remote locking blip does not work and have had to lock car manually. suggestions please!

Thanks 72 Dudes & Paul H for your input. Well I've now opened up a can of worms! Took a look at the stalk connector and guess what? its one unit for all the stalks with 4 connectors on. One comes from the ignition barrel, 2 x twin wire connectors which put the airbag light on when disconnected individually and one grey one with the majority of the cables in that I cannot work out how to disconnect yet. The thing is, I can see a circuit board inside this unit and as I wiggle this grey connector with the car turned off I can get the reversing selection ding (or is it bing? the little speaker is on this unit) to sound which concerns me regarding the condition of this circuit board. This may be the problem as this circuit board obviously recieves power when the car is swithched off. You know when your looking at something and your thinking this bit looks expensive, well this is one of those bits! Although I have not taken long looking over the unit it looks on first inspection to need the steering wheel removing to replace it too. I do hope I am wrong. If anyone reading this thinks I am off track with this problem and barking up the wrong tree please feel free to pass comment or offer advice. :huh:

OK I removed the radio over night and this morning same problem (eco mode) does any one out there know what equipment fitted to an LX is able to draw power from the battery when the car is turned off and locked. Does anyone have any thoughts on a possible cause? Could it be the monitoring unit itself at fault or is it possible that a failing car battery could cause the same symptoms. Im open to any educated guesses becauses that is what I will be resorting to soon. Dont Know if this is relevent but when I reconnected the radio/cd with radio swithched OFF and no key in the ignition something in the unit powered up briefly but the unit did not switch on. Also my remote stalk control for the radio is still not working, I am guessing that with the radio removed this stalk is electrically isolated or is it connected to something else. The buttons on the stalk do not fill me with confidence as they sometimes feel like they stick. No controls on this stalk work at the moment. This is probably a red herring but it all happened arround the same time. :huh:

Hi iannez Thanks for the advice ill give it a go, and let every one know the outcome. Any more suggestions gratefully recieved. :rolleyes:

Hi Sorry to show my ignorance but what is the bsi (Im going to feel realy silly when you tell me Im sure) If I am not leaving any thing on what could be causing this? could it be as simple as a battery on its way out? Thanks for your input.

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Hi I have a Xantia estate and have encountered the same problem. DickieG is correct, if you take the trim off your boot door there is a plastic cover held on with a sticky sealant. You will probably see a water mark where dirty water has breached this seal. If you lift your boot mat it will probably be soaked as it acts like a sponge underneath but is dry on top also lift your rear seats and fold forward and water will be pooled under the seat. This plastic sheet is difficult to stick with sealants and Citroen only sell the plastic with sealant ready applied (not cheap 7 years ago). I have found self adhesive aluminium tape cured my leak after giving the area a good clean with white spirit. hope this helps. If you find a good sealant that does the job please let me know.

Thanks for the info Paul. Surely the inerior light should come on when the door is opened regardless of eco mode, do you think this is a seperate problem. Citroeneddie also replied to my question and reported having a problem with his radio linked to his eco mode. My remote stalk for the radio stopped working around the same time as my locking problem but I did not think of a link between the two, maybe there is.

Now you mention it this problem of mine started arround the same time that my remote radio controls on the stalk stoped working. Thanks for the info. Did the dealer mention what it was eg loose connections or the like?