bidderman1969 Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 hi all, is the drain plug on the lower side of the gearbox? just underneath the driveshaft? and the fill up hole, on the side of the box, or under the air filter housing? ta Quote
paul.h Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 Need some details of the car and gearbox and engine plus the year. Quote
coastline taxis Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 if its a Al4 tiptronic boxs then just let the dealers do it . its worth every penny as the level can only obtained when the fluid is at 84 degrees and its not just any old auto fluid that goes into it Quote
bidderman1969 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Posted June 27, 2017 sorry guys, thought it was in my profile, lol 2004 C3 Pluriel, 1.6 semi-auto Quote
bidderman1969 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Posted June 28, 2017 also, what size is the drain plug? my 8mm square one is too big Quote
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bidderman1969 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Posted June 28, 2017 don't even ask why it leaked out, lol Quote
paul.h Posted June 28, 2017 Posted June 28, 2017 I have put your car details as your signature so no need to mention it in future topics. You can edit this if you go to your profile. The drain plug might be 6 mm and if you have a 1/4 inch socket set you may find the square fittings on it will work. If not then you can measure the plug. For the piloted gearbox the drain plug is below the drive shaft and the level plug is nearer the front of the car but at a similar level to the drive shaft. From RPO 9786 a level plug has not been installed. There should be 2 litres of oil, if you do not have a level plug this is put in by removing the breather cap on top of the gearbox. The plugs are tightened to 33 Nm. You should check the oil type at a dealer but for the piloted gearbox it could be Total Transmission BV, SAE 75W80 Citroen part reference 9730 A2. Quote
bidderman1969 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Posted June 30, 2017 I have put your car details as your signature so no need to mention it in future topics. You can edit this if you go to your profile. The drain plug might be 6 mm and if you have a 1/4 inch socket set you may find the square fittings on it will work. If not then you can measure the plug. For the piloted gearbox the drain plug is below the drive shaft and the level plug is nearer the front of the car but at a similar level to the drive shaft. From RPO 9786 a level plug has not been installed. There should be 2 litres of oil, if you do not have a level plug this is put in by removing the breather cap on top of the gearbox. The plugs are tightened to 33 Nm. You should check the oil type at a dealer but for the piloted gearbox it could be Total Transmission BV, SAE 75W80 Citroen part reference 9730 A2. cheers bud Quote
bidderman1969 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Posted June 30, 2017 well, i can see why theres no "youtube" video showing how to do the semi-auto fluid change, man, that things done up tight, not sure how I'm going to get that biatch off still not sure i can see where the fill up one is Quote
paul.h Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 If you do not have a level plug then you completely drain the oil and add the 2 litres through the hole for the vent cap or the reverse light switch after removing one of them. RPO 9786 equates to a production date of 25/8/2003 so you should not have a level plug. If you know how much oil you have lost, then you could just add that amount and not bother removing the drain plug. Otherwise, to remove it probably means using a longer wrench than already tried or with the one used to hold it in place as though undoing the plug and hitting it with a hammer in the direction to undo the plug or if you have an impact driver you could use that. When the plug is removed you may find it has a copper seal that needs replacing. Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) If you do not have a level plug then you completely drain the oil and add the 2 litres through the hole for the vent cap or the reverse light switch after removing one of them. RPO 9786 equates to a production date of 25/8/2003 so you should not have a level plug. If you know how much oil you have lost, then you could just add that amount and not bother removing the drain plug. Otherwise, to remove it probably means using a longer wrench than already tried or with the one used to hold it in place as though undoing the plug and hitting it with a hammer in the direction to undo the plug or if you have an impact driver you could use that. When the plug is removed you may find it has a copper seal that needs replacing. yes, probably finding a copper seal would sum up just how frustrating this car is, :ph34r: tried the hammer technique as well, :lol: :lol: gonna try jacking the car up even higher just to see if i can get more leverage on it, otherwise, like you say, just have to put in about a litre and leave it to a garage and they can have the aggro, :D :D Edited July 1, 2017 by bidderman1969 Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 I have put your car details as your signature so no need to mention it in future topics. You can edit this if you go to your profile. The drain plug might be 6 mm and if you have a 1/4 inch socket set you may find the square fittings on it will work. If not then you can measure the plug. For the piloted gearbox the drain plug is below the drive shaft and the level plug is nearer the front of the car but at a similar level to the drive shaft. From RPO 9786 a level plug has not been installed. There should be 2 litres of oil, if you do not have a level plug this is put in by removing the breather cap on top of the gearbox. The plugs are tightened to 33 Nm. You should check the oil type at a dealer but for the piloted gearbox it could be Total Transmission BV, SAE 75W80 Citroen part reference 9730 A2. this the stuff, yes? https://www.amazon.co.uk/TRANSMISSION-FLUID-MTF-U-MTF780-CARPLAN-x/dp/B0118KSXJK/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498927463&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=Transmission+SAE+75W80 pretty sure i got 2 litres of it somewhere, but i may just get another one litre just to top it up for now Quote
paul.h Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 I think this is the latest from Total https://www.nielsencdg.co.uk/acatalog/Total-Transmission-Gear-8-75W-80-Oil-1L-TOT_201278.html#SID=1087 You can check the spec but it may be the latest version of Total BV 75w80. Nielson deliver in a couple of days and their prices seem to be the lowest. Quote
coastline taxis Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 put it into the dealers to be done. you will never get the correct level without diagnostic equipment and if you get it wrong it will cost you a gearbox plus labour Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 7, 2017 Author Posted July 7, 2017 all done now, bit of a ball ache undoing the nut, but peace of mind now and to the next owner Quote
paul.h Posted July 7, 2017 Posted July 7, 2017 What did you do to undo the drain plug and was there a copper washer on it ? Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Posted July 13, 2017 borrowed a set of drain plugs from the citron indy place, and used their 8mm one that fitted, but my 8mm didn't, :unsure: :rolleyes: :D yep, had the copper washer in there, :D all done now, just giving her a good polish up, replacing the tailgate, then should be up for sale Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Posted July 13, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/qqxaYsm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/T4uR0x2.jpg Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Posted July 13, 2017 got the headlights looking better http://i.imgur.com/qAQYEVf.jpg Quote
bidderman1969 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Posted July 13, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/U6yoSrs.jpg only the best washing! Quote
paul.h Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Was it Cleopatra that bathed in milk, could be a good name for a car. Quote
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