Pluriel Leaking Roof

[Mike T]

Does someone know the history of the Pluriel and it's roof ?

 

My wife's car is a 53 plate first reg Dec 2003, we bought Apr 2005 (7,724 miles).

We are now (17,000 miles) experiencing Leaks into the boot, also causing Boot switch failure.

 

On talking/checking around, it seems there have been ongoing problems and redesigns with the Model.

 

Has anyone any advice or first-hand experience of a similar situation ?

 

Mike

[hertsnminds]

Hello Mike

 

When I had this problem with my Pluriel the solution was to order a new rear screen cassette. This was all done under warranty so I have no idea of the costs. I never found out if this solved the problem as I traded my Pluriel in for a C4 before the part came in (it took 2 - 3 weeks and I had had enough of carrying a bucket in the boot to catch the water).

 

For information about the Pluriel and some of the changes look at this website

http://www.c3pluriel.org.uk/

Look in the Questions section under, why is my Pluriel wet inside.

 

Ian

Black 55 VTR+

[kfk]

My advice would be to speak to your local dealer as there are various updates some of which include the replacement of the complete roof cassete assy (£1750 + Fitting).

 

If you speak to your dealer and they diagnose this as required i would advise you speak to Citroen customer services/your dealer and see if you get a result........no point speaking to Citroen untill you have spoken to your dealer.

[Mike T]

Thanks for the replies Guys,

 

Am in discussion with Dealer, who are hoping to get "Citroen" approval to fit replacement.

I wanted to get some background to the issue in case we are left "holding the wet baby" !!!!!!

 

Mike

[Guest chrisnn]

Hello Mike

 

Sorry to hear of your leak. I should check the seals that the sides of the tailgate press against. At the point where the gas strut for the tailgate attaches to the body, you will see where 2 sections of seal join. The upper one must overlap the lower-if its been dislodged you could certainly expect a leak from here.

 

The touch release in the tailgate centre top does in fact operate a solenoid under the tailgate trim panel. This is easy to remove and might give you a clue to the source of the leak if this is indeed the problem

 

If you pull the top of the tailgate back and forth in the closed position, does it seem loose or rattly? If so the strikers need adjustment as mentioned in one of my posts. This could also be a possible leak source if the tailgate panel is not pressing on the seals sufficiently

 

Let us know how you got on as is always useful to understand these things

[MartinSpiers]

Does someone know the history of the Pluriel and it's roof ?

 

My wife's car is a 53 plate first reg Dec 2003, we bought Apr 2005 (7,724 miles).

We are now (17,000 miles) experiencing Leaks into the boot, also causing Boot switch failure.

 

On talking/checking around, it seems there have been ongoing problems and redesigns with the Model.

 

Has anyone any advice or first-hand experience of a similar situation ?

 

Mike

Good luck to you, I hope your leak can be rectified, my car is a 53 plate Pluriel 1.6 Sensordrive.

Currently with 17,839 miles on it, the roof leaks like a sieve (this is my only gripe with the car) I have repeatedly phoned Warleys at High Wycombe and spoken with the service manager numerious times, (the last time was last week) I was told it has had all the modifications but he will speak with technical services, so far, I am still waiting for the phone call back.

 

From new this car has been back to them many times in the past for this problem, they say they have looked at it, and thats it, it has always come back with the same problem,

Our pluriel leak's excessively on the passenger seat, (If you want to upset the wife sit her in my Pluriel and wait till she gets wet underwear) we currently own 2 Citreons a C5 & the Pluriel its a shame that Citreon have let us down so badly, both with the product, but more over with the aftersales and product support. I have gone from an avid fan of Citreon to a very dissapointed one, (by the way the C5 estate also has had a few faults).

 

I have tried to be an understanding and reasonable customer, as I am an engineer myself, I am also well aware that mechanical things do go wrong, the difference between a good company and a bad one is thier ablility and willingness to put things right when they do go wrong.

 

I have been told:

We have the wrong sort of rain: (What! I dosnt rain in France and other countries)

That convertables do leak: (nothing in the sale litrature or hand book about this)

I have been made to feel unreasonable that I have wanted this problem fixed.

 

The C5 is due for replacement because of the way that we have had our problems handled we are

now considering looking at Japanese cars

 

All I have wanted is a reasonable conclusion to rectify this problem, one would have thought that after all this time they would have had a fix, if you want picture of the damage the water has done to the interior of my Pluriel please feel free to email me at martin@martinspiers.co,uk

[Guest chrisnn]

Hello Martin

 

I presume that your car is leaking from the join in the seal over the door glass. There are 3 things you can do:

 

The arch to screen pillar clip is adjustable. Loosen the crews to adust. you may get some improvement if this has not already been used up.

 

If you look carefully at the end of the arch seal you will note what appears to be an extra layer of rubber moulded in around the the metal drain tube. I guess that Citroen identified problems here and modified the seal early on. Its easy to add another layer as the clip compresses it suitably.

 

Now, what I think is the real culprit. The metal drain tube above is supposed to carry water forwards into the screen part of the seal and thence to exit under the front wing. However, if you look at the area that the tube fits into on the screen pillar, you will note that it is cone shaped. Now the hole from the arch seal into the metal tube is exceeding small, which must cause the water to dribble rather than flow through. I think the consequence of this is that water dribbles out of the end of the tube, and instead of running forwards, runs back down following the downward curve of the cone shaped part. It then dribbles out of the visible join in the seal onto your seat. To the outside of the cone area a tube is moulded into the seal. If you punch a small hole from the lowest part of the cone area angled down into the tube, then this provides an escape route for water before it reaches your seat!

 

Having done all 3 our car is currently dry

[elliegolf]

Does someone know the history of the Pluriel and it's roof ?

 

My wife's car is a 53 plate first reg Dec 2003, we bought Apr 2005 (7,724 miles).

We are now (17,000 miles) experiencing Leaks into the boot, also causing Boot switch failure.

 

On talking/checking around, it seems there have been ongoing problems and redesigns with the Model.

 

Has anyone any advice or first-hand experience of a similar situation ?

 

Mike

Hi,

 

Ive got the same model, Ive had serious boot leaking problem plus 2 inches of rain in the footwell this year. Because I am out of warrantee Ive had to go to citroen direct. Similarly Ive heard from alot of people that there is serious probs with the roof and I understand it has been re designed twice in the last 18 months. I am now waiting for a reply from Citroen on a way forward!

[plurielzze]

Does someone know the history of the Pluriel and it's roof ?

 

My wife's car is a 53 plate first reg Dec 2003, we bought Apr 2005 (7,724 miles).

We are now (17,000 miles) experiencing Leaks into the boot, also causing Boot switch failure.

 

On talking/checking around, it seems there have been ongoing problems and redesigns with the Model.

 

Has anyone any advice or first-hand experience of a similar situation ?

 

Mike

Well Mike, I had similar roblems but under warrenty. The roof was changed and the problem was cured. It may be that you need a new roof and seals. The only problem is the expence as you are not under warrenty. I have heard it will cost about £3000.

[Guest annie]

Does someone know the history of the Pluriel and it's roof ?

 

My wife's car is a 53 plate first reg Dec 2003, we bought Apr 2005 (7,724 miles).

We are now (17,000 miles) experiencing Leaks into the boot, also causing Boot switch failure.

 

On talking/checking around, it seems there have been ongoing problems and redesigns with the Model.

 

Has anyone any advice or first-hand experience of a similar situation ?

 

Mike

Hi Mike

I have the same reg car and the same problem except that up to now I haven't experienced boot switch failure. I love the fun element of the car but am reluctantly getting rid of it because of the boot and roof leakage problems that the garage can't seem to rectify. There is a large crack in the fascia around the release button for the boot and I think that's the source of the boot leak on mine but it's just too costly to have it repaired when there are so many other leaks. Like one of the other respondents I've been told that you have to expect leaks with a convertible but that's just an abdication of responsibility.

I've also got a problem with the car stalling sometimes when I'm slowing down at traffic lights, junctions etc. - something to do with the computer system, and have had a quarter light replaced because it was bowing out and causing horrendous wind noise. I still think the car is a fun and funky car and love being able to drive around with the roof down, but the problems and the feeling that they're never going to be rectified are now outweighing that pleasure.

So the answer is, I don't believe there is a long-term solution to these obviously very common problems - I have 2 Pluriel owning friends in the same situation.

Citroen need to go back to the drawing board.