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Hi Paul, With the NEW pump disconnected I get 12 volts across the connecting wires (blue and white) with both front and rear screen wash with a change in polarity from back to front. But when I connect the pump I dont get the reverse polarity for the back wash however I can hear a click from atleast 1 relay so it maybe that one has failed. The click is coming from the fuse box under the bonnet, where the fuse for the pump is located. I cant see any relays, they are probably underneath the fuses which will need the fuse box to be totally disconnected and removed. Ive not checked to see what I am actually getting to chassis. That'll be by next test. Dave

UPDATE: I managed to get some proper jet covers for the bumper and they broke and fell off with first time test. So I screwed those reflectors to the end of the jets and they look and work great. I removed the screen wash pump and, sure enough, it would turn one way but not t'other. I replaced the pump but the fault persists BUT if I reverse the connections to the pump the water comes out the rear jets and not the front. If I disconnect the pump supply I get a voltage reversal but when pump connected the -12v is absent. I think it may be a relay that I can hear but not locate. Dave

:) Cheers. Dave

Hi There is water getting into the engine compartment. Ive heard of this being caused by the water outlets under the bonnet being blocked. Ive also heard that this can cause premature cam belt failure and or electrical problems. In my case it appears that the seal along the bottom of the glass is not sealing and water is getting in that way. I have tried silicon and another sealant without success. Any one else had the problem and was able to solve it other than replacing the seal? (that dosent look like an easy job). Dave

Thanks for the info. Paul

Hi all, Anyone know if there is an online C8 workshop manual? I recently purchased a downloadable one for £9.99 but the files were so big (40 GB) they filled up my hard drive OK I have only got 80 GB but I don't want to upgrade my PC for another few months. The manual also only worked in a virtual machine environment, so I had to down load and install a version of that. Then I had to download another version that wasn't compatible with the files. I wasted 3 days of my life trying , in vain, to get it going. Need it be that complicated? I got onto the WS manual suppliers and they said for another £13 they would supply a DVD version. So I thought great! I will be able to browse the manual straight from the DVD. BUT NO!! you still have to transfer the same huge files I already downloaded to the hard drive anyway. So I am £23 out of pocket and still cant view the manual. I JUST WANT AN OLD FASHIONED BOOK!!! In my opinion a WS manual is better in paper form so you can have it next to you when examining the car? It's not that practical to take my desktop PC to the vehicle nor will my C8 fit into my office :rolleyes:. Any way if I could find an online version that I can browse through that would suffice I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR ACCESS!! Regards, Dave

Thanks for all the info. I'm going to try to fix the bodged reflectors to the end of the spray bars. Regards, Dave

AHAA!!..... At some stage the covers must have snapped off the front of the shooty outty mechanism so some bright spark screwed some pretty reflectors over the holes so the shooty outty things couldnt shoot out. And it passed the last MOT like this. I have now removed the reflectors so the head lamp washers now work and this confirms what you all have been saying about the mystery pump. I now have two holes in my bumper and I need to find a way of securing some sort of flap or try to get replacement parts. Thanks for your help in tracking down this unknown issue. I'll order up a new rear/front washer pump to see if that solves that.... Is the rear washer not working an MOT failure? Dave

Another possibly daft question. If my C8 had headlamp wash wouldnt there be washer jets or wipers of some kined? I cant find any mention of light washers in the handbook. Dave

Darn it I thought I was on to something :rolleyes: Thanks for your input. I need to get the screen washer pump out again.... :blink: Dave

Does your car happen to have HID headlamps? Ummmmmm? I think she has. Weird looking things

The water tank on my C8 definitely has 2 pumps. 1 seems to have two outlets and works fine. The other has one outlet, I have put 12volts on it and that runs too. If I twist the column switch for the rear screen wash I can hear a click from under the engine fuse box (no sound from either pump) which I assume to be a relay. I guess this rules out a problem with the switch and the pump is ruled out. Is there another fuse? I cant see any water jets to wash the head lamps so I assume the rear wash has a separate pump? I assume that when the column switch is activated this tells the BSI to actuate the relay. The relay then switches 12v to the pump. So this leads me to think that perhaps the relay is faulty, there is a 12 volt supply feed missing or I am barking up the wrong tree. Cheers, Dave

UPDATE: Panic over. I took her to a Citroen dealer today and he reported no problems AND shut the EML off, charged me 10 euros. Thanks for your input guys. Dave

Hmmmm....no info regarding the injector was passed to me. Maybe I should return to a Citroen garage to get them to set it up before I embark on my journey to the UK. Dave

Hi, I had the engine management light come on and off with loss of power. This turned out to be lack of Elloys and some valvy thing on the FAP. After those things were rectified the light has remained off. That is until I had an injector replaced. The light is now on permanently. There are no symptoms regarding the car's operation. The mechanic that did the injector hasn't got the diagnosis equipment but said not to worry about it, BUT I DO!! I've had a quick look under the bonnet to see if he left any pipes or cables off but could see nothing untoward. I took the car to a chap that had the diagnosis equipment and there were no error codes and the light would not reset via his laptop. He suggested disconnecting the battery for 30 mins or over night. Now I'm a bit loathed to do that after reading, in the hand-book and on line, that a plethora of problems could appear due to the necessity of system re-initialization after battery re connection. Should I ignore it, should I disconnect the battery,should I panic? :unsure: Dave