Hi all I managed to get it out in the end there was 2 bolts in the middle radio gap that held the dash to the cross member, for reasons best known to citroen the had placed black tape over them making them invisible. The reason for the removal was to repair the heater flaps which were both broken in exactly the same place both sides obviously a bad design. Repair has been done and almost all back together it has been an experience not for the faint hearted will let you know in the next few days how it went and if the repair was successful.