Thanks for the reply. its a 2005 Citroen C3 1.4D - not sure of power output. 60k the dash does light up when the ignition switch is used, and I have used the spare key. Engine light is on too. There is no clicking at the starter solenoid when the key is turned. I will check all the earth points, I've just brought a Haynes manual as I couldn't see all the earthing points! I'll wire straight to the starter from the battery and see if it turns. Thanks for your help, I'll let you know what I find!