Thanks Paul - that is very useful information. Looks like my suspicion that they didn't build a fully automatic box for the ETG6 diesel is true. I will just have to learn to drive the one I've got. The chap who did the road test said to slightly lift off the throttle when it changes gear but that has not been the way I drive. I had a Tiptronic automatic box in my previous car and I think that spoiled me for anything else. Thanks again