Thank you Paul for your reply, no hand book in the under seat boxes, pity. Yes it could well be a bit of debris in the box, the noise is mentioned in some of the service reports last year. I would so like to fix all the problems, but it has done 150000 plus the dents, I know the sensible thing to do is run it and look for a low milage one which was the original intention. We purchased our Xantia at 26000 three years old for £7000 and it has been great, if I had not been so mean and changed the cambelt it would not have died at 75000 : ( Bit hairy backing an auto in the garage for the first time, I am 71 and have always driven manual cars. PS There were no advisories on the MOT. Are there any sites where the hand book can be downloaded, it would save pressing all the buttons ? God Bless Spiff