Diagbox Psa Evolution Xs - Vci Interface Help

[Aldispatch]

Hi, 

 

I can't seem to get my VCI to talk to my Citroen C1 after many attempts of software and fresh XP installs..

 

I then tested my Virtual Machine(VM) Diagbox 7.02 / VCI 4.3.0 on a friends Peugeot 407, and it works!? (I'm excited to get my first ever 32bit VM running on 64bit Win 10, but annoyed I've faffed with many installs attempting to talk to my C1 when it worked all along, just not on my car )
 

I used Simple's great run down here for installation:  http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/23435-diagbox-7xx-from-preparation-to-operation/

I've also bought a £4.25 ELM27 OBD2 reader and that does actually work on my C1's port. I can read most of the live data and faults in the Torque App, but after about 6 fresh installs of XP and Diagbox in various ways, it turns out that was never the problem, as it does work on the 2012 407 just not my 2007 C1, and I know the VCI also used to work on my last vehicle: 2009 Dispatch, it was all running fine on my old laptop.

 

The ebay seller VehicleDiagnosticsUK has gone silent 

Could it be I have a non full chip reader, or can my port be malfunctioning on certain pins K-line problems? There is 12v on pins 4/5 to 16 are there any fuses I should check or specific pins for data transfer?? Another thought, could Diagbox 7.02-7.04 and now I tried 7.57 - Could it be broken for the C1? 

 

I read from Simple about 10k resistor missing on some boards, but i'm not sure for mine if my VCI is full Chip or missing things? :  I can try to solder of i need to.

 

Thanks for any Help

 

Al

 

[Simple]

Your VCI (from the photos) is a full chip one. Also, from the last photo showing the PSA Interface Checker identifying your VCI Firmware as 4.3.0, you don't have (VCI to Computer) USB connection issues. By the way, the latest firmware release is 4.3.5 if you wish to upgrade.

 

Try choosing Citroen C1 manually and entering correct RPO, see if it recognising the VIN #. Failing that, check the car fuses and focus on the connector cable from VCI to OBDII, ensure all wires are connected/soldered properly. 

 

Always ensure that your setup connects to other PSA cars so that you don't waste time suspecting a functional setup.

[Aldispatch]

Thanks Simple, I'm glad I don't need to do any soldering. The VCI is currently updated to 4.3.2 for Diagbox  version 7.57

 

I have not seen an option for putting in the RPO it automatically asks for the VIN when I select a C1 to test. But I saw ver7.57 has a different auto sense that I didn't see before, (Car with a question mark logo) i'll try it out later tomorrow.

 

I have checked all car fuses, and they're all good. All pins on the VCI to OBD2 connector lead have continuity although both round connector pins 4+3 feed the same OBD2 pin 4.. maybe normal?

 

I did notice my VM XP's  firewall was on earlier, I'll go and test tomorrow without.

 

Thanks

 

Al

[Aldispatch]

I'm  a bit confused now after testing again but with no luck, I tried the auto detect and manual VIN selection but neither worked, with host/guest firewalls off, netoworks disabled or on, all I got was this:

 

 

I found if I unplug the OBD2 connector or Round VCI cable connector Diagbox would notice and say please connect VCI, it wouldn't even try and auto sense the VIN.. So I guess the VCI knows when it is connected to the car but cannot communicate?? (Actia drivers show up as normal in device manager when VCI is plugged in, and I can hear relays clicking as it tries to connect)

 

The cheap OBD2 can sense on the cars port though:

 

 

Here's my cars' port, only 7 pins in use.. is that normal?:

 

 

I still can't figure out what is causing the 'interruption' or lack or communication?

Edited January 9, 2018 by Aldispatch

[Aldispatch]

Actually I had another look at my boards, and I think maybe it is not a full chip version.. am I missing the 10K Ohm pull up resistor!? It's meant to be where I marked in red, Is that right? 

 

 

So can i just solder something like this in place and fix it? 

 

https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/metal-film-06w-10k-ohm-resistor-m10k

[Aldispatch]

Well i bought a 10k resistor and just managed to solder it on, although there's not much room between the case and board.

 

but.. i then checked with my multi-meter and it said 10 Ohms, not 10k.. arg I tested in the car and it still doesn't work!  :(

 

So i think i need to get a real 10k :

 

[Aldispatch]

Update*

 

It still doesn't work, even with actual 10k resistor soldered on.

 

 

Loosing hope and patience with this VCI.

 

I can recommend: Do not buy any Lexia Diagbox VCI from VehicleDiagnosticsUK on Ebay, as it doesn't work on all cars and he doesn't respond to emails.

Edited January 10, 2018 by Aldispatch

[Simple]

Your clone seems identical to mine (bought from Aliexpress for 56 Euros Oct 2014). It is considered a Full Chip and has the full optocoplers set, the TDK filter and other smaller components.

 

Some older PSA cars use Lexia or PP2000 through DiagBox on 32bit Windows. The newer cars use DiagBox it self on 32 or 64bit Windows. I have just checked and found the C1 is one of those cars that use DiaGbox!!

 

Now, DiagBox v7 ends at v07.77, any later updates actually belong to v8, so 7.83 is actually update 8.19 adapted for v7. DiagBox v8 and updates 8.01-17 did not need changes to the original files, this is why I did not include 18 or 19 or any further updates which required heavy changes to the original.

 

Hence, you may stand a chance updating to DiagBox 7.83 and if it does not work, perform a full update to 08.17, your car would not benefit from further updates since they are specific to Lexia and PP2000.

 

If you do not want to use Lexia or PP2000 you can use 64 bit Windows and you can name your DiagBox 08.17 (review the posts) instead of 07.817, but I would stick with procedure until you find your feet.

 

I tried to look into PSA site to see which updates cover which cars, but they removed the older archives and the latest available is 08.21.

 

You can check here:

http://service.citroen.com/dtt/IFD/AC/documents/en_GB/

 

Good luck, Simple !