arrows Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 My C3 HDI Exclusive (17500 miles) has not cut out for ages, then it happened twice yesterday. Meanwhile the rattling at the tops of the B (seat belt) pillars is progressively getting worse although it could be affected by temperature. I seem to remember from the old forum that it could be mastic related - is it worth trying to get it sorted? I did try at the 12500 miles service but i knew they didn't know what they were talking about so I gave up! Other than that it's a super car. Quote
pork_pie Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Check the switches behind the break and clutch pedal. If they are misaligned, the ECU gets confused and in a state of panic shuts the engine down. Otherwise get the garage to do a software check (arrrrrrrrrrgh) Quote
scottp Posted September 8, 2004 Posted September 8, 2004 got mine sorted a couple of months ago, "software" upgrade seemed to do the trick, don't think that's all they did though cos they had the car for 3 full days and nights. keep at em mate, it's under warranty Quote
hertsnminds Posted September 8, 2004 Posted September 8, 2004 Just a couple of things... If you are not happy with the service from a particular Citroen dealer go to another one, you can get any problem fixed by any Citroen dealer. If the dealer cannot fix any problem after 3 attempts your consumer rights allow you to reject the vehicle as faulty (not repairable) and you can request a refund or brand new replacement vehicle. (This hint from the Pluriel section of the forum, where vehicle rejection is more common than most). Ian Orange 03 Senso (Pluriel) Quote
arrows Posted September 9, 2004 Author Posted September 9, 2004 Thanks for the replies Don't know if I've done the right thing but I've booked it in at Stourbridge to get it fixed (I am not holding my breath though) in a couple of weeks. It's a three day job as it involves removal of the headlining, and there's yet another software upgrade. I will keep you informed. Quote
scottp Posted September 9, 2004 Posted September 9, 2004 there is always another "software upgrade". mines in for its 25k service this saturday, is £137 about right for this? that's what i've been quoted is all. Quote
arrows Posted September 9, 2004 Author Posted September 9, 2004 My garage's prices are £165 for the 12500 and 25000 miles HDi services so that's cheap! Quote
Badlass Posted September 9, 2004 Posted September 9, 2004 It is worth pursuing the rattles.....it is mastic and it is heat related...the problem on my old C3 was remedied with rivets. Just wondering if I will have similar probs with the new one. BL Quote
arrows Posted October 11, 2004 Author Posted October 11, 2004 Got the car back after having the roof repairs carried out to remedy the creaks and rattles from the B pillars. The car was in for 3 days, headlining dropped, mastic etc. and guess what? [b]Still creaks and rattles[/b]; in fact it now sounds worse to me. Apparently my dealers carry out an extra 'fix' which includes expanding foam and they say they have had no returns with this method but Citroen have now prohibited the use of it. The problem is now in the hands of Citroen - will keep you posted. By the way the car accelerates more smoothly and has not cut out yet with the current software 'upgrade'. I think that it is idling slightly faster. Rob Quote
arrows Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 Received a call from the dealers yesterday - Citroen have now agreed to the use of expanding foam in the roof channels. So it's another 3 day job in a couple of weeks time. Quote
dave leatherby Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 My three month old SX Sensodrive has just started rattling inthe B pillar area! The annoying buzz from the dash has stopped now with cooler weather! Seems to indicate that they are both temperture related. Car is just now in to the dealer for senso clutch judder and the confounded rattle - I'll print off this section to produce it if they can't find a cure!!!! Quote
JonC3 Posted October 16, 2004 Posted October 16, 2004 Arrows, I wouldn't mind hearing how you get on, and what info Citroen UK have regarding this, as I feel I will get a "they all do that sir" answer when I see my dealer about this later this month. Quote
dave leatherby Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Hi Jon,Rob &Co. SX 1.4 Senso just back from 3 days with dealer. Too soon to know whether some/all of the problems are fixed. They did a "B Pillar mod" Jon, but a hefty 'clack' from behind and above my right ear on the way home doesn't bode well !!! I had remarked that the handbrake travel seemed excessive considering the amount of use it gets with the Sensodrive system - they've now adjusted it so far that I can just get the first notch ! (don't think the wife could manage even that) - guess I'll have to ring dealer Monday. :unsure: Computer has received another up-date. ? To rectify auto-clutch judder??? Watch this space!!!! :unsure: Quote
arrows Posted October 29, 2004 Author Posted October 29, 2004 Picked up my car today C3HDI Exc after having the roof mods carried out a second time - this time with expanding foam in the roof channels now sanctioned by Citroen. [b]Good news [/b]- it works - I am absolutely delighted that there are no creaks or rattles from around the tops of the B pillars. I can now hear the rear parcel shelf rattling but this can easily be sorted out by some rubber stops or sticky foam tape. But the bad news is that they creased the headlining at the rear and also stained it presumably after trying to clean off dirty fingermarks, so it will have to go back in for a new headlining. However, this to me is the lesser of two evils. By the way it took 4 days for the job to be carried out. Rob Quote
dave leatherby Posted November 3, 2004 Posted November 3, 2004 Congrats Rob!!!! I had the B pillar mod done but still get a hefty 'clack' from behind right ear each time I hit a bump!!! I'm going to let it go for a while and then refer dealer to the cure you mention (I'm waiting to see if the Sensodrive clutch judder is actually CURED - it seems to need the car to be unused for two or three days to reveal this problem !) Regards - Dave :blink: Quote
Reggie Posted May 16, 2005 Posted May 16, 2005 My 2003 C3 has started clicking recently in the area of the door pillars/seatbelts when driving on poor road surfaces. This seems to have started after I serviced it and jacked it up using my trolley jack, unless that is just coincidence, and maybe it's due to the ambient temperature increasing. Anyway, it never used to do it. Does anybody know if this is a recognised fault by Citroen, and has the "foam fix" been approved? Has anybody on the forum attempted and had a successful fix doing the repair themselves? Apart from this, I have had no other significant problems. Reggie Quote
AlanFC Posted May 30, 2005 Posted May 30, 2005 Hi , Arrows is your car still quiet? See my latest post. numerous visits, problem still apparent!!!! if the cure was permanment, please give details. Many thanks Quote
tag Posted July 2, 2005 Posted July 2, 2005 Hi My C3 Exclusive developed the rattle in the RH pillar at the top & was due to a loose door hinge, which one I'm not sure I also on a previous visit had a new clutch fitted to sort out clutch jerk & they also fitted a new top engine mount to sort out an offside knocking which they had been trying to sort out for about a year. They only agreed to fit the mount when I pointed out there appeared to be a faulty batch according to reports on early C3's. Will be changing my car soon but not to another Citroen though, I've had more niggles with this car than any other I've bought Quote
tag Posted July 2, 2005 Posted July 2, 2005 Hi My C3 Exclusive developed the rattle in the RH pillar at the top & was due to a loose door hinge, which one I'm not sure I also on a previous visit had a new clutch fitted to sort out clutch jerk & they also fitted a new top engine mount to sort out an offside knocking which they had been trying to sort out for about a year. They only agreed to fit the mount when I pointed out there appeared to be a faulty batch according to reports on early C3's. Will be changing my car soon but not to another Citroen though, I've had more niggles with this car than any other I've bought Quote
Reggie Posted July 6, 2005 Posted July 6, 2005 I rang my local dealer and spoke to the service dept. and when I described and explained the problem (B pillar posts creaking/cracking), they said that they had never heard of it! I was invited to take the car down for them to listen to the problem. If I do, and being a stereotypical Yorkshireman I may not, I may try and fix it myself, but if I do it makes me wonder if it is fixable as other people on this forum seem to have had very mixed results,and makes me wonder whether is it worth spending money on? Apart from this one problem the car has been very enjoyable to own. Reggie Quote
arrows Posted July 27, 2005 Author Posted July 27, 2005 Still no creaks or rattles after all this time - so it looks like a permanent fix. Latest software upgrade has also elimiated cutting out at halts! <_< BTW has this site been down for ages? Quote
Reggie Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 :D I rang the Citroen dealer at Stourbridge, and spoke to the service dept and spoke to a chap who was most helpfull. He confirmed that the expanding foam fix was approved. So I dropped the headlining on the C3 last week and squirted in expanding foam, and up to now.......NO MORE CLICKING. So it would appear that this is "the fix." I'll just have to see if it proves to be as durable as Arrows has been, but it is thanks to the information received by Arrows that I have looked into this further. See my previous post when my local Citroen dealer had not even heard of the clicking let alone the remedy. So thanks for posting this Arrows! If anybody else considers doing this, take the head lining completely out and don't be tempted to drop it only around the area that you are going to squirt the foam in, as you will end up in a mess, and will probably ruin the head lining. I nearly did it this way, (the economical way) but in the end, decided to remove it completely and am glad that I did. It is a very messy job, requiring lots of sheets to cover the seats etc. I got mine done in two days. I (and my wife) now enjoy driving this car again, which is good because I was considering getting rid, mainly because I can't stand clicking and dashboard creaks etc. Reggie Quote
arrows Posted December 17, 2005 Author Posted December 17, 2005 Just to let you know that my car is still quiet, How is yours doing Reggie? At my last service the dealers uploaded the latest software and this has rectified the cutting out that I used to experience quite frequently. Quote
Reggie1 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Arrows, I've had to change my user name to Reggie1, as I can't remember my password, but up to now there is no more clicking. We shall have to wait and see if there is any change come Summer and the hotter weather, but I doubt it. So thanks again for saving my sanity. Reggie Quote
arrows Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Glad to hear things are OK Reggie. My car was quiet over the summer - hopefully yours will be too! Quote
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