Driver's Door

[WVN]

Hi everyone.

 

I face the following problem. Driver's door does not shut properly. Sometimes it takes 3-4 times to shut. Frame seems straight and u can not see anything out of the ordinary. Anybody had the same problem?

 

regards

 

:(

[CoolCarbon]

Hi everyone.

 

I face the following problem. Driver's door does not shut properly. Sometimes it takes 3-4 times to shut. Frame seems straight and u can not see anything out of the ordinary. Anybody had the same problem?

 

regards

 

Check your door handle isn't sticking open...

[WVN]

Check your door handle isn't sticking open...

 

nope...handle ok. It seems that it bounces back when shut.

[Rich_Eason]

Is this a door wont stay shut question, or it wont fit in the hole question? :(

 

If it is the first, i.e it wont stay shut have you checked to make sure the door handle isnt sticking in the out posistion? This releases the catch inside the door and thus the door does not stay shut.

 

If it physically wont fit in the hole I'd look at your rubber trim/seals and take it to a dealer.

[Rich_Eason]

nope...handle ok. It seems that it bounces back when shut.

it should spring back as soon as you let go, not when the door is slammed....

 

ps this has to be the fastest moving thread on record look at the times!

[WVN]

Is this a door wont stay shut question, or it wont fit in the hole question? :(

 

If it is the first, i.e it wont stay shut have you checked to make sure the door handle isnt sticking in the out posistion? This releases the catch inside the door and thus the door does not stay shut.

 

If it physically wont fit in the hole I'd look at your rubber trim/seals and take it to a dealer.

 

must be the 2nd i think

[Cromlech]

I have noticed recently (last week or so) that my drivers is not closing so neatly and making more noise than normal when shutting. Have noticed that it's not completely closing more than normal, although, I have no evidence yet as to whether the latter problem is the door or my decreasing strength levels.

 

I will pay attention to this, and if anything need trying/experimenting then I will happily join in.

 

Also, mine will be heading back to Citroen for some more repair, and I will bring this up at the same time.

[idlerobbo]

strangely a couple of times over the last few days I thought I was either just being weak or i've got this problem... the doors are so damn heavy anyway its often normally hard enough to just let go of them and they would close so it does seem like a problem may be developing...

[Rich_Eason]

I can tell you how heavy they are as lastnight one blew shut on my leg. :( :)

 

Combined with 40mins at Tesco doing the weekly shop and the pouring rain, as you an imagine my mood levels were sufficiently chuffed off..

[idlerobbo]

I can tell you how heavy they are as lastnight one blew shut on my leg. :( :)

 

Combined with 40mins at Tesco doing the weekly shop and the pouring rain, as you an imagine my mood levels were sufficiently chuffed off..

 

I feel your pain... although 40 minutes for myself and my partner is usually spent in tescos arguing over what we are having for tea!

[syrup]

Combined with 40mins at Tesco doing the weekly shop

 

:( Rich I hope you weren't buying petrol!

[Stuey]

Rich is an educated man, im sure he doesnt put cheap nasty petrol in his car...BP ultimate all the way! dont you Rich??

[Cromlech]

Much to my boss's annoyance, I have just spent about 15-20 mins opening and shutting the doors on my car. And whilst I didn't identify an exact problem, there is definitely plenty on evidence suggesting a problem somewhere.

 

* Operating either internal or external driver's door handles provides significantly more resistance in comparison to passenger's door.

 

* The sound made by the driver's door opening or closing is noticeably louder and sharper than that of the passenger's door.

 

* Success rate of the driver's door closing fully is reduced by about 40% (this is not a scientific statistic as I cannot guarantee the amount of force in kN used to close the door in each instance :P )

 

PS. You can't imagine how much of a pillock you feel, when you have been stood in your car park opening and closing the doors of your car numerous times, only to turn around and notice that about a dozen people in nearby buildings are stood at their windows watching you (including the pretty girls from the office over the road, grrrr).

 

I shall put myself forward for the position of Estate Idiot in the near future.

[Rich_Eason]

I feel your pain... although 40 minutes for myself and my partner is usually spent in tescos arguing over what we are having for tea!

 

She goes to the gym...I go to Tescos...She does the running around, I get the injury...work that one out. :P

 

Nearest BP is miles away for me, so its second best or third(?) Esso stuff. Tescoids is desperate measures, besides which the nearest one is one of the Metros and I hate them.

 

Probability of getting car pranged by some dope running about like a loonatic desperatly seeking bread and ginger nuts = high

[Grecian VTR]

Don't know if this will help!

 

Sometimes my door won't shut when i get in. Found the problem to be the seatbelt. It doesn't always recoil properly because of the clip at the top of the seat.

 

It then twists so it is horizontal between the seat and the door, there then isn't enough room for the door to close so it springs open, but after a couple of attempts the belt would move and the door would close.

 

Attached picture of rough belt position when door won't close in case that doesn't make any sense!

 

http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc30/th_94602_DSC00819_122_30lo.JPG

 

Andrew

[hertsnminds]

PS. You can't imagine how much of a pillock you feel, when you have been stood in your car park opening and closing the doors of your car numerous times, only to turn around and notice that about a dozen people in nearby buildings are stood at their windows watching you (including the pretty girls from the office over the road, grrrr).

 

Who is more of an eeejit, then person opening and closing car doors or the people wasting time watching him? At least you were doing what you were doing for a reason.

 

Doesn't take much to draw a crowd, just stop on a busy pavement and look up at the sky. See how long it is before people walking past start to look up to see what you are staring at.

 

 

Ian

Black 55 VTR+

[Cromlech]

Don't know if this will help!

 

Sometimes my door won't shut when i get in. Found the problem to be the seatbelt. It doesn't always recoil properly because of the clip at the top of the seat.

 

It then twists so it is horizontal between the seat and the door, there then isn't enough room for the door to close so it springs open, but after a couple of attempts the belt would move and the door would close.

 

That's a fair point to bring up, but I have established that's it's not the seatbelt causing this, in my case.

[philstott1983]

The problem mentioned in this thread, the door handle sticking open and not going back after you have pulled it has led me to the problem of the door not shutting.

 

I take it others have had this problem, how have you got over it? Is it a dealer job if the problem persists, or something that I could do?

 

First time this problem occured i never realised there was a problem on the door and started to drive off. The door flew open and wasnt far of a Merc!

[xavtia]

both my doors were like that, but as I'm allergic to wd40 I asked the dealer to sort it, but now the passenger door handle isnt smooth so its got to go back again, I was going round a corner when I found out the door wasnt shut properly luckily managed to catch it before it did any damage

[hertsnminds]

I have the auto door locking on, so if any door is open and you get above 6mph you will get a warning beep and the display will show which door is open.

 

The main display should already be showing if any door is open before you pull away but if it does not the fact the doors can't auto lock should give the warning beep.

 

 

Ian

Black 55 VTR+

[Gargybloke]

Me too!

 

Just got a new 5 door VTR+ 1.6 HDI egs and after 500 miles the driver's door has suddenly started rattling a bit. Yesterday when it happened I gave it a wiggle and there was a bit of play so opened and closed it again. There wasn't any door light but this stopped some of the noise for a while.

 

I've checked for any loose bits but there aren't. Seems more to be something inside vibrating. I'll obviously bring it up at the first service check and see what happens. Shame cos I am enjoying the car apart from that.

[WVN]

Problem solved, another came up.

 

Vehicle got all the rubber window guides changed since there was a nasty rattle coming from the door. Strangely, now i think that wind noise is louder.

 

Also(VERY IMPORTANT)

 

THE VELVET LINING IS ONLY ON THE DOOR FRAME OR FROM THE INSIDE OF THE WINDOWS AS WELL?

[Guest GarthyB]

The old ZX used to suffer with a similar problem to this. It was down to the linkages between the interior handle and the door lock mechanism. This used to be more of an issue because of the design of the door pins. If you force the pin down to lock the doors it could cause linkage adjustment issues.

If the linkage slips the lock is held in limbo, not knowing if it's opening or closing. Hence the door locking or not. The interior handle always springs closed and appears to be normal, however the linkage is incorrectly set.

If the interior and exterior handles seem a little stiff in operation, and the door seems to unlock with a clonk chances are the links need adjusting.

You can test the lock itself by using a biro to roll the lock shut in the door. With the door open slide the end of the biro into the mechanism, you are looking to simulate the door closing onto the door clasp on the B pillar. It should just click shut. If it won't lock then the door panel will probably need to come off.

 

As for why it happens....could be flimsy build quality, possibly an overly enthusiastic grasp of the handle. Most probably pulling on the internal handle when the doors have been locked from the inside via the autolock button on the dash! The increased effort required to override the lock, causing the linkage to bend or go out of adjustment.

 

Avoid opening the doors before disengaging the autolock function, from the inside of the car.