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I can't tell the exact figures (especially not in miles:)) but my VTS is everything but economical. I have stopped following the consumption long ago because it is frustrating

But nothing beats speeds of 180-200 km/h, even if it consumes 18 liters/100 km :)

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Should be going faster :-P the 1.6 can make it up to those speeds never mind the VTS. I want to see you come back with a picture for 220+KPH lol.
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On occasions when I've tanked up (that's when I'm NOT taking leave of my senses and putting petrol in like last week!) and then set off gently on a long journey, the predicted range in tank has read as high as well over 700 miles. Of course you'd lose the will to live finding out if it's achievable - after all, you'd probably get 800 out of it if you stuck to a constant 30 mph but for nearly 27 hours at the wheel?!.

 

I have however just returned from a lot of longer distance and/or motorway driving to get 55 mpg overall from my VTS 2.0 diesel.

 

It seems you only have to stick to speed limits to achieve this. More is possible, but I don't have a trilby hat and a tweed jacket (yet)

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I have however just returned from a lot of longer distance and/or motorway driving to get 55 mpg overall from my VTS 2.0 diesel.

 

I am averaging 40MPG in my 2.0HDi.

 

Most of my driving is on motorways.

I agree that if you stick to speed limits then nearer 50MPG would be possible, but I would lose the will to live, and probably fall asleep watching everyone speed past me. :)

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The only thing I can think of that was different was to use Shell instead of supermarket diesel. If that has given me 50 - 100 miles more from a tank I might stick to the branded stuff. Just filled up at Tesco so let's see how far this tank gets me.

 

Just an update on this to confirm that the Shell diesel is giving me at least 50 more miles per tank and as the prices are the same as the supermarkets near me I will stick with the Shell branded.

 

Noticed that unleaded has crept up to the same price as diesel and in some places even costs more per litre at the moment.

 

 

Ian

Black 55 VTR+

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Just an update on this to confirm that the Shell diesel is giving me at least 50 more miles per tank and as the prices are the same as the supermarkets near me I will stick with the Shell branded.

 

Noticed that unleaded has crept up to the same price as diesel and in some places even costs more per litre at the moment.

Yes, it's good to find diesel is the same price as unleaded.

 

I filled up with Shell diesel recently, but I can't say I've noticed any significant difference from my usual 52-53mpg.

 

I am looking forward to a visit to Scotland, when it should be possible to get 700 miles from the tank. At the moment I get around 640;

 

I tend to set the distance to destination as 622 miles (1,000Km) when I fill up, ignoring what the the computer generates.

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my petrol is well on for 440 miles from this tank. The most I have had is 401 and that was on vapours...

 

I've had 350 miles out of my first tank with the VTS. That was using the new Shell replacement for Optimax. 99 RON Not bad considering I've had the climate on all the time and have given it the 'Governor' a few times

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Just got 715 miles on a full tank on my 1.6 HDI 92BHP. Computer recorded avg MPG at 57.6. I do about 70 miles a day to and from work. Combination of motorway / national road and town driving. Avg speed over the 715 was 32 mph. I let the guage run down until 9 miles were left and then half filled the tank and immediately got an Anti-pollution fault error!! May not do that again
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It's nice having long distances to travel with relatively light traffic roads.

 

Did a trip from Canberra to Brisbane last April (C4 2.0 petrol 5 door VTR 5 sp man - what you call a VTR Plus I think). Filled up in Canberra at 7.20am and again in Coonabarabran (523km/326Miles), after 2 stops - 1 pee, 1 lunch stop, at 1.40pm. C4 took 39.06 litres - a bit under 7.5 litres/100km, or 38mpg in the old language). Average speed up to the lunch stop at Coona according to the dash readout was 98kph (60mph) and my companion said 158kph stared at him from the top of the dash at one point. Lots of that was on 100 - 110kph (60 - 70mph) highways with the fast bits on back roads (some fast dirt at times).

 

The next leg before refilling was from Coonabarabran to North of Brisbane (742km/463 miles) where wse refuelled at 9.54pm after a stop for tea and a trip through Brisbane (average speed 89kph/56mph). C4 used 53.75 litres for 7.24litres/100km/39.2mpg.

 

That was a pretty good trip I must say.

 

Average fuel economy for 16,000km (10,000 miles) in (our) city and country driving has been 8.4 litres/100km/33mpg).

 

In city traffic - stop start, lots of lights etc, economy suffers a bit, but highway cruising in cruise control and using cruise control on city roads where possible, as well as observing what's happeniong ahead and backing off as necessary gives pretty good economy for a car that is capable of some pretty good performance and handling.

 

But a trap for young players is fiddling with the fog (driving) lights at night - especially turning them off. It's fine with some familairity but a couple of times I've been "blacked out" by turning the wrong bit of the light controls - very scary!

 

Love to have a 2.0 litre diesel under the bonnet but they're not here yet.

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Simscar, you need to get a diesel.

 

http://c4owners.co.uk/files/public/1183041684_82_FT7185_mpg280607_.jpg

 

And that's yer average motoring in a 6cv (110HP) 1.6HD VTR+i; no long distance cruising there.

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:rolleyes:

 

Exactly! Didn't you read the bit I included about wanting a 2.0 litre HDi?

 

We were keen on a 1.6 HDi but over here they don't come with a particulate filter and their green rating suffers enormously. The 2.0 petrol is better overall (not on CO2, but overall, taking account of CO2 and particulates). The 2.0 C4 petrol comes out as best 2.0 hatch for overall "green(n)ess".

 

No question about fuel economy of the diesel - 4 of us leased a C5 2.0 HDi 6sp man last year in France and over 10,000km, with a full boot, 130+kph on French and Italian motorways, city and town slogging (Paris, Florence, etc) and on UK's abysmal "A" roads with speedcams at the end of the only safe places to overtake (keep on their hammer Jeremy Clarkson), we averaged 6.8 L/100km. Love to have one of those engines in a C4 manual.

 

Circumstances dictated a new car at the end of 2006 (the Xantia ultimately cost too much to maintain after 340,000km) and at the end of the end-of-model run-outs we had to settle for a 2.0 C4 Plus petrol or wait for ages for a (dirty) 1.6 HDi.

 

We love the C4 - a few little issues like the squeaky back brakes, our cruise control occasionally malfunctioned but has now had a downloaded update, and the temperature guage which despite a new sensor, keeps wanting to show nil temp: it's off to the doctor again shortly for this problem. Perhaps a bit light on in the boot department, but no rattles, good economy for a petrol 2.0 and bloody nice to drive with excellent cornering, just turn the wheel and around she goes, add some careful on/off/on throttle and no-one keeps up in the roundabouts! Nothing beats the style of this car!!

 

A friend of ours got her first drive the other day and absolutely loved the spaceship dash.

 

We've had Citroen's for donkeys years a CX2400 from new for ages (wonderful to look at and drive but irksome to work on); a dabble with an old ID as a back-up; the Xantia (a very nice drive); and now the C4 (probably our favourite - so much kit and style). As my wife says it's not Which Car, it's Which Citroen!

 

 

 

 

Simscar, you need to get a diesel.

 

http://c4owners.co.uk/files/public/1183041684_82_FT7185_mpg280607_.jpg

 

And that's yer average motoring in a 6cv (110HP) 1.6HD VTR+i; no long distance cruising there.

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Exactly! Didn't you read the bit I included about wanting a 2.0 litre HDi?

I did - I'm confirming and showing the evidence why you need to get one. Every gallon of fuel will give you at least another 10 miles. And if diesel's cheaper than unleaded, you win on both counts.

 

I'm not sure on the particulate issue, though I do know the diesel emits less CO2 than the petrol, 'cos I pay a lower rate of road tax.

 

The EGS auto version has the particulate filter, but the manual doesn't - I think I've got that right.

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Looking at the Australian versions of the C4 looks like you get less in most equipment specs than the equivalent here. Even the VTS doesn't have everything we get as standard here.

 

But the VTS is very different in France as well. You can get a 1.6 VTS out there.

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Thanks John Bach and Wozza

 

I suppose I was extolling the virues of even the petrol C4. The economy we got on the fast trip was pretty impressive for the speeds we were doing and some of the roads we were on. I reckon it's a pretty good package all around in terms of performance and economy.

 

Equally, the diesels in their niches are about as good as you get too. We had to get a new car and the 1.6 HDi over here was just a bit too "dirty' for us at the time with no particulate filter (surprising, because the Pug 307 with the same 1.6 engine has one). But that's probably Peugeot flexing it's corporate muscles as it tried to do with the WRC cars a few years ago!

 

Euro cars are getting pretty good markets over here now with their value for money, but still struggle against the Japanes and Koreans. On top of that, we have a huge history of Big (uneconomical but lazy) 6s and V8s to overcome. Can you believe GM has launched a 6 litre V8 in the current (world) environment (15l/100km) and people (even Top gear) rave about it!! Fast but irresponsible.

 

It's hard to market a C4 at @ $Au29,990 against a Camry 6 at the same price (but lacking half the gear I must add) with it's size and specs and performance. Big Mitsubishi V6s are even cheaper, basically because they can't sell them at the price they want because everyone expects them to close down any time. It's a hard road for Citroen to make up ground on but they are doing remarkably well now with substantially increased sales thanks to C2, C3 and C4 models; the Grand Picasso should help too - it's got very good press here.

 

Dredging my memory banks John Bach is it OK to say iachi dda now (my Welsh goes too far back for me to remember meaning and spelling)?

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I've never fully understood the finer points of particulate emissions regs. It seems trucks can spew out more or less what they like, but a refined and economcal family car emitting less CO2 than its petrol sister is unacceptable.

 

Iechyd da!

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Those big 6 litre V8's depending on the car there in actually get decent MPG considering. Know someone with a corvette and couple of people were rather surprised and said he was talking rubbish that he could get 35mpg out of it. Then one of the guys rented one while he was in the states...he has since decided there one of the best cars ever. 30+mpg isnt difficult and the power was great. But then again what car with between 400 and 500hp is designed to give good MPG? Its a sports car MPG plays a less important role.
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I hired a big Buick in the US with something like a 3.8 litre V6 and was surprised how economical it was.

 

I read the driver's guide, and it seemed it had a sophisticated fuel control system which would shut off fuel to up to 4 cylinders, according to the power needed, so as to minimise fuel consumption. So driving carefully paid off, but the moment the pedal was floored, consumption increased frighteningly.

 

It's the only way with these inherently thirsty engines.

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All the new big V8's coming out do that shut down 4 of the cylinders. Also got to think US gallon is smaller than ours. So when you see figures on sites for vettes / mustangs camaros etc saying 28mpg thats over 30mpg here. Which is about what I get on my C4 now.
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20mpg in bad traffic etc. Yeah. Motorway 30+ is doable. But you dont buy a big yank car to worry about the MPG there just fun to drive. I would love a go of that new VXR8. 6.0 out of the corvette cant go wrong. Sod the MPG.
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Well on my way to Donnington services i managed 26mpg...But I did make it from My drive to Donnington via Leeds in just over an hour.

 

On the way back which took a lot longer due to me needing to stop and sleep. Longest 14 miles of my life waiting to get to those services I was so tired. But Way back including the trip in the morning I managed to bump that back up to 33mpg. Managed over 400 miles from the tank as well. And now babying it around town its sitting at just over 36mpg.

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My car is a 1.6 hdi since this thread started I have been recording the diesel I have used against the mileage. Most of my journeys are on duel carriageways where I travel to work. I have ignored the average fuel readings on the display and have worked them out using a calculator. I am very pleased with the result of 59.8 miles to the gallon with the cost of fuel at £0.95 a litre I am glad I bought the diesel model. I am sure I could get over 700miles to a tank the most I have recorded is 680 and I still had two bars left on the fuel gauge, approx 118miles left.

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