Bhp

[Fizzo17]

Hi guys, i am a little confused ( nothing new there then). I am still trying to sort my problem with the DVLA. Can you clarify something for me? I have a 2.0l petrol engine which I think produces 142bhp. Did Citroen make a 2 litre petrol that produced 138bhp? I have lokked on the net ,but have only found 138bhp diesels. How do I find out which engine I have? Thanks for any info

[C4VTS]

http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/citroen/c4/80/2

 

This review quotes there was a petrol 138BHP, and the 143BHP auto.

 

Also , if you look in the owners handbook at the back, it has the specs for the 138BHP petrol engine.

[Fizzo17]

http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/citroen/c4/80/2

 

This review quotes there was a petrol 138BHP, and the 143BHP auto.

 

Also , if you look in the owners handbook at the back, it has the specs for the 138BHP petrol engine.

 

 

Sorry I cannot find a listing for a 138bhp 2 litre from your link. Your are correct that the handbook lists a 138bhp 2 liter. Interestnigly (for me) it quotes the CO2 emmisions as 186g/km which is what the DVLA are saying mine are! How can I find out what bhp my engine is? 138 or 143?

[ham's c4vts]

if you pm Mike5483, im sure he'll tell you as hes got a 138 bhp C4.

 

" the petrol units, all with 16 valves, are a 90bhp 1.4, a 110bhp 1.6, a 138bhp 2.0 and a 180bhp 2.0 for the Coupé-only VTS"

 

thats from the link that C4VTS posted

[Mike5483]

if you pm Mike5483, im sure he'll tell you as hes got a 138 bhp C4.

 

" the petrol units, all with 16 valves, are a 90bhp 1.4, a 110bhp 1.6, a 138bhp 2.0 and a 180bhp 2.0 for the Coupé-only VTS"

 

thats from the link that C4VTS posted

 

 

Yep, mines a 138BHP 2.0i.

 

Im sure for 55 plate and after, it was 143BHP, the engine being Euro 4 compliant. The 138's are only Euro 3 compliant.

 

However, im sure its more then possible that some 138's were sold after the 55 plate came in.

 

What we really need are some chassis numbers from the two different engined cars. Maybe there is a number/letter string which denotes engine size/power.

[Fizzo17]

Yep, mines a 138BHP 2.0i.

 

Im sure for 55 plate and after, it was 143BHP, the engine being Euro 4 compliant. The 138's are only Euro 3 compliant.

 

However, im sure its more then possible that some 138's were sold after the 55 plate came in.

 

What we really need are some chassis numbers from the two different engined cars. Maybe there is a number/letter string which denotes engine size/power.

 

 

Thanks for that Mike. I agree you would think there would be some way of finding out from youe VIN or something like that.

I spoke to someone at Citroen Uk today and she said 138 petrol engines CO2 emmisions were 182g/km same as the 143bhp engine. Something doesn't add up

[C4VTS]

Check your log book for the VIN number.

 

Letters 6,7,8 identify the engine type.

 

I found a list of some Citroen/Peugeot engines.

 

symbols 6,7,8

678 ENGINE COMMENTS

Citroёn Models

6FZ 1800i, 16V

HFX 1100i

KFN 2000cc, 16V, 167hp Xsara

KFU 1400cc C3

KVF 1400i Berlingo

NFU 1600i, 16V, 108.8hp C4

NFV 1600i, 8V, 65kWt Xsara Picasso

NFZ 1600i, 8V, 70kWt Xsara Picasso

RFJ 2000cc C5

RFL 2000i Jumper

RFN 2000, 16V, 137hp

RHV 2000, HDi Jumper

RHW 2000, HDi

RLZ 2000, 16V, HPi

WJY 1900D, (DW8)

XFX 3000i, 24V

 

More engine codes here:-

 

http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/wshtm...ecs/vincode.htm

[Fizzo17]

Thanks C4VTS. My vin has RFN in the middle of the number so I guess that makes it a 138bhp engine. damn I have lost 5 bhp!!!!!

thanks everyone for the help :rolleyes:

[Stuey]

never put it on a rolling road...the truth hurts :rolleyes:

[ham's c4vts]

bet you wouldnt notice the difference either

[Mike5483]

Yep, mines an RFN to, so Im a 138 (I knew that anyway!!!)

 

Id still like to find out about the emmisions though, if it is the same as the 143, it should be in group E rather than F and therefore, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!

[Fizzo17]

Yep, mines an RFN to, so Im a 138 (I knew that anyway!!!)

 

Id still like to find out about the emmisions though, if it is the same as the 143, it should be in group E rather than F and therefore, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!

Mike i emailed Citreon UK today with my VIN. They will email me the emmisions info. as soon as they do I will let you know. would you prefer a post on here or a pm

[Guest CE05LDB]

My brothers reg on the C3 is CF55 RFN. RFN must be popular letters.

 

Is there alot of difference between 138bhp and 143bhp then?

[Guest GarthyB]

Is there alot of difference between 138bhp and 143bhp then?

 

My maths aint up to much but I make it about 5!! :ph34r:

 

BHP doesn't matter it's the Torque that counts.

 

2.0 HDi 138 BHP 236lbs/ft torque 0-60 9.7 secs

2.0 16v 138 BHP 140lbs/ft torque 0-60 9.2 secs

 

The diesel is slower by 0.5 seconds you scream!! Yes, but it weights 119kgs 10% more than the petrol! Strip the weight off and watch the diesel fly....torque-tastic! Or alternatively slap a caravan on the back of each one and see who get's off the line first.

 

BHP figures are something to brag about down the pub, but hardly anyone torques about torque! :angry: :unsure:

 

My C4 is the 1.6 16v VTR+ petrol by the way! I may as well be driving backwards!

110 BHP 108lbs/ft torque 0-60 10.6 secs!! :lol:

Nothing to brag about down the pub, and I wouldn't want to pull a caravan with it either.

[wozza]

The 1.6 is definitely quicker than the book figures suggest. Think timed mine to 60 in around 9.3 not amazingly fast but it is only a 1.6.

[ham's c4vts]

acceleration in and through the gears(for overtaking), is what really counts in the real world not 0 to 60 to be honest.

[wozza]

True but just saying book figures are usually wrong. Like the VTS is over 8 seconds to 60 yet seen a few things saying there definitely under 8 seconds.

[Mike5483]

Mike i emailed Citreon UK today with my VIN. They will email me the emmisions info. as soon as they do I will let you know. would you prefer a post on here or a pm

 

You can post on here if you dont mind, im sure it maybe useful to other at some stage.

 

If they come back and say its got lower emmisions, I might ring them and get them to send me it in writing.

[Fizzo17]

Hi Guys. I have just recieved an email from Citroen UK. After giving them my reg and VIN they came back wiyh the following info:

 

Car: Citroen C4 picasso Wrong

Engine: 1.6 Wrong

Bhp: 110 Wrong

Emmisions: 155g/km Wrong

 

Have emailed them back asking them to have another go. I will keep you updated.

[Scarbro]

Hi Guys. I have just recieved an email from Citroen UK. After giving them my reg and VIN they came back wiyh the following info:

 

Car: Citroen C4 picasso Wrong

Engine: 1.6 Wrong

Bhp: 110 Wrong

Emmisions: 155g/km Wrong

 

Have emailed them back asking them to have another go. I will keep you updated.

 

 

Have you sent them a photo of your car, it may give Citroen a clue as to the model you have :)

[Fizzo17]

Hi Guys, After twice identifying my car incorrectly :blink: Citroen UK have finally confirmed that my engine is the 138 bhp model :( and more disappointingly that the CO2 is 186g/km :( :( :(

Oh well it was worth a try. thanks to everyone who helped with info