M-O-R Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Had delivered a new (company car) C4 VTR+ (5 door) with the JBL upgrade in March this year. I noticed I could only see 7 speakers from what should be a 9 speaker system. Its been a long saga to get this issue resolved but what i am being told now is that there is 9 speakers and that the front doors have doubled up speakers. I think they are talking crap and i am sure i remember the chap showing me months ago another VTR+ that had another two speakers in the parcel shelf (which mine doesnt have). In addition i simply cannot see any space in the front doors where the speakers could be doubled up. The sub has been blown since day 1. I have been told by Citreon to take it back and they will strip the doors to make sure the speakers are "doubled up". Can someone confirm where i should have the 9 speakers? I have two tweeters on the dash, what i believe is two in the front doors, two in the back doors and a (blown) sub in the boot. Total = 7! Any help greatfully received PS: My stereo in the car is also exactly the same as a normal C4. Is there an upgrade on the facia that comes with the JBL upgrade? Ta M-O-R Quote
wozza Posted October 6, 2007 Posted October 6, 2007 JBL upgrade is an amp under the front passenger seat sub in the boot and there are only the normal speakers. As far as I am aware there are only 7 speakers. Could be wrong though not got the chance to look at a JBL equipped car yet. The hatch has speakers in the rear doors as well right? Are there not also 2 on the rear shelf to the sides like in the coupé? I can't see how they could "Double up" the speakers though unless there cheating by putting in tweeters elsewhere and counting them. The headunit is the same for all of the cars though only difference is the amplifier and sub and slightly different speakers. Quote
M-O-R Posted October 18, 2007 Author Posted October 18, 2007 JBL upgrade is an amp under the front passenger seat sub in the boot and there are only the normal speakers. As far as I am aware there are only 7 speakers. Could be wrong though not got the chance to look at a JBL equipped car yet. The hatch has speakers in the rear doors as well right? Are there not also 2 on the rear shelf to the sides like in the coupé? I can't see how they could "Double up" the speakers though unless there cheating by putting in tweeters elsewhere and counting them. The headunit is the same for all of the cars though only difference is the amplifier and sub and slightly different speakers. Wozza, thanks for that. The brochure clearly states a "9 speaker system" with the JBL upgrade. I quote from the PDF on their web site In-Car Entertainment JBL Hi-Fi system (amplifier, nine loudspeakersincl. a subwoofer, bi-tuner radio, double antenna+MP3 reader) None in rear shelf, like the Coupe... Will be taking the car back this week again if i get time and let you know whats happened Cheers M-O-R Quote
wozza Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 Does it sound like there are tweeters in the rear? If so thats probably your extra 2 speakers. They like to count the tweeters as 2 speakers. Quote
M-O-R Posted October 18, 2007 Author Posted October 18, 2007 Does it sound like there are tweeters in the rear? If so thats probably your extra 2 speakers. They like to count the tweeters as 2 speakers. Hmmmm... really dont think there is after giving it a good look over. The sound quality is substantially poorer from the back than the front. Certainly no high range sounds... Quote
Antti Salonen Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 Hmmmm... really dont think there is after giving it a good look over. The sound quality is substantially poorer from the back than the front. Certainly no high range sounds...If the rear speakers in the Berline are anything like the ones I removed from the rear shelf of my Coupe, they are 6.5" paper "full-range" speakers. They sound as bad as they look, with barely any low or high range. I suggest you adjust the balance all the way forward, or disconnect the rear speakers, and be done with it. For good sound all you need is a pair of good speakers with separate tweeters in the front and a sub in the back. Quote
wozza Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 Thats exactly what I have and have been saying that for a while. But I went all aftermarket with mine. Amped components up front and amped sub in the rear. Sounds great to me. Quote
M-O-R Posted October 24, 2007 Author Posted October 24, 2007 Wozza, et al Been looking for the amp under the passenger seat as you mentioned. cannot find anything that looks like an amp just bits of plastic. Is there a pic of what should be under the seat available? Im really beginning to think they messed myJBL upgrade up from the start as this would be a very real reason why the amp has been blown for day one! Cheers Nathan Quote
wozza Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I have been asking for people to post pics and no one ever does lol. Just thats apparently where the amp is according to others. Never had the chance to go digging through a car with the JBL to know for a fact how its all hooked up etc. Just going on what others have said. My advice is check out the other C4 forum where there are far more with the JBL system who may be able to offer you a bit more knowledge on it. Otherwise get it to the dealers and ask them to sort it. If the sub has been blown from day 1 it is there responsibility not yours. Quote
M-O-R Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 OK... update. The Citreon C4 hatchback DOES NOT come with a 9 speaker system when upgrading to JBL despite the brochure saying it does. The coupe does however come with a 9 speaker system. The amp is under ther drivers seat and im not surprised i couldnt find it it is bloody tiny! Will try to take a pic but its very packed in so will be difficult. You can just about see it hanging out of the drivers door side and under the seat. The sub is on order and they are replacing it. I think i might be able to put this one to bed now! Cheers all... M-O-R Quote
wozza Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Would love to see where the extra speakers go in the coupe as well as I am pretty sure there is only room for 7 there as well. As long as they are sorting it out though mate all good. Should get yourself on the other C4forum as well. http://c4owners.org/ If you sign up and join with the £10 membership you get discount on various things should you find the offers worthwhile signing up for. Either way there are a lot more owners over there with more insight into everything. Quote
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