Vegoil Etc

[skimmerflyer2]

Hello all, I'm your newest newbie. I've just read a dire warning from a member regarding the probability of all the rubber and plastic parts rotting away if vegoil is used in our favourite cars. Can this be right?, if so, where can this be verified.

[Penguin]

Hello all, I'm your newest newbie. I've just read a dire warning from a member regarding the probability of all the rubber and plastic parts rotting away if vegoil is used in our favourite cars. Can this be right?, if so, where can this be verified.

 

Get yourself here http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/ and read all about the benefits and pitfalls

[skimmerflyer2]

Get yourself here http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/ and read all about the benefits and pitfalls

 

Hello there,

Have done so already, I'm on my second vegoil motor, the first was/is a Volvo 740 Estate with a non turbo WW 6cyl 2.3 engine --- to this I fitted a second water heated fuel filter and manually switchable 2 tank system ---- however an opportunity came up to buy a Xantia and on looking up its possibilities re running on single tank 50-50 mix I could'nt resist it --- I am now running it on such a mix of wvo donated from my local pub making my per litre price of fuel 54p. There is no discernable difference in starting from cold, tickover. and running. In fact it seems to run smoother and with slightly better low down torque.

And you?????

Peter

[candpdoyle]

Hello mate

 

I have only had mine a couple of weeks, but am running on 60% bio diesel(75p litre) and the rest cooking oil.. runs very well once started, but i do have some trouble on a cold morning... i will have to check the glow plugs though as it could be they are not working as they should be..

 

Runs very well on this mix for me and as far as i know as long as you have the bosch injector pump, you should be fine on the wvo

 

 

Cheers

Chris

[skimmerflyer2]

Hello mate

 

I have only had mine a couple of weeks, but am running on 60% bio diesel(75p litre) and the rest cooking oil.. runs very well once started, but i do have some trouble on a cold morning... i will have to check the glow plugs though as it could be they are not working as they should be..

 

Runs very well on this mix for me and as far as i know as long as you have the bosch injector pump, you should be fine on the wvo

Cheers

Chris

 

Chris,

Thats very interesting in my searchings on the web I've not come across another running on a mix of biodiesel and wvo. I have always thought that biodiesel functioned exactly as dino, consequently I am surprised that you have any difficulty in cold starting with such a mix. I think you could be right, it sounds to me as if your glow plugs need a look at. I'm also interested in the price you quote (75p/ltre) for biodiesel, is this homebrew??

Nice to hear from you, Peter

[candpdoyle]

Hi peter

 

No it is not home brew, we have a manufacturer down here in devon, South west Biofuels.

If you buy like pump diesel he charges £1.06(includes road duty), but if you collect with jerry cans it is classed as generater fuel, which is fine now that customs have relaxed the duty on your first 2500 litres..lol

 

i used to use his fuel in my series land rover and there was no troubles with starting so i think i may have some glow plug issues.. on the landy if there was a fault the light would not work??? the trouble with the xantia is the light seems to work fine?? maybe a project for today, will see if there is power supplied to the plugs

 

Cheers

Chris

[shropshireman]

hi all , well thats good got a bosch pump instead of a lucas , now just need to decide whwere the bloodyhell im gonna buy the oil from , ive a mate who buys his ,from a cash and carry whats everyone think asto best prices for new oil cheers all.

 

 

 

oh and second thought on later xantias are they all ok to run on cooking oil scenario

cheers all

[candpdoyle]

Dude to be honest the oil front is a bit of alet down these days :( since the revolution the price has rocketed and you will be doing well if you can find it for less than 75p a lt.... if you can get your hands on waste oil and do a good filtering job, then leave to stand for at least a week to seperate... drain off the crap which will be at the bottom, filter it again and then mix it with either dino diesel or if you lucky and have a bio plant near to you, mix it with that.

 

I am in some ways lucky because i am a chef so have access to used oil, and occasionly nick a bit of clean stuff(my bad).. in the last 6 months the peice has gone from £10.50 /20l to £16.90/ 20l through my oil supplier and at 85p is more expensive than bio diesel from my local guy??? weird but true

 

 

Chris

[skimmerflyer2]

Dude to be honest the oil front is a bit of alet down these days :( since the revolution the price has rocketed and you will be doing well if you can find it for less than 75p a lt.... if you can get your hands on waste oil and do a good filtering job, then leave to stand for at least a week to seperate... drain off the crap which will be at the bottom, filter it again and then mix it with either dino diesel or if you lucky and have a bio plant near to you, mix it with that.

 

I am in some ways lucky because i am a chef so have access to used oil, and occasionly nick a bit of clean stuff(my bad).. in the last 6 months the peice has gone from £10.50 /20l to £16.90/ 20l through my oil supplier and at 85p is more expensive than bio diesel from my local guy??? weird but true

Chris

Hello again all,

I suppose the most critical aspect of running on a mix is the size of the usage. Me, I'm lucky in that repect. old, retired, and my nominated annual mileage for insurance purposes 4000.I make that 78 miles per week. At the moment I can manage that easily on the output from my local and it also affords me an interesting pastime solving the logistics of dealing with the mucky stuff and turning it into a golden useful commodity. In fact I may even be tempted to swich to 100%. At the moment I use a small vintage brass double action pump from the 5gall cans into a couple of yer actual sweet jars 4ltrs each, these are placed into a large saucepan which is used as a water bath to heat then settle for 7days before filtering. My filtering arrangement is simple--- I cut 5micron sock half way up and restich to make two, line each with a denim home made sock -- My collect vessels are plastic washing up bowls placed in the bottom of a black plastic bin bag, each filter is hung up above its bowl, bung the oil into the filter, carefully pull the top of the black bag so that the filter is contained in the top of the bag, tie a piece of cord round the top of the bag so that the whole lot is sealed within the bag -- bobs yer unc. no mess and no added dust, dog hairs and all other kinds of junk that is attracted to WVO. Peter

[candpdoyle]

That sounds like a good system!! i am constantly on the look out for suitable containers... i used to collect the wvo in an old waterbutt, but it was extremly messy and like you say was like a magnet for dirt :(

 

I am pushed for space at the moment, but am hoping to build myself a nice big shed sometime this summer, and will then make sure i ahve a corner to work in and set a small plant of some description.. we all know it makes sence!! just the time, lack of space and set up costs holding me back at the moment

 

 

Chris

[skimmerflyer2]

hi all , well thats good got a bosch pump instead of a lucas , now just need to decide whwere the bloodyhell im gonna buy the oil from , ive a mate who buys his ,from a cash and carry whats everyone think asto best prices for new oil cheers all.

oh and second thought on later xantias are they all ok to run on cooking oil scenario

cheers all

 

shropshireman,

My 95 1.9TD has got a Bosch pump --- on my travels on the internet I see it recorded that either Lucas or Bosch were fitted, some 1.9 owners report difficulty when trying to identify which is which --- this is peculiar because mine has the name Bosch moulded into the case on the side in full veiw.

Peter

[shropshireman]

mine too, a 95 td 1.9 and in direct view on the pump is the word bosch stamped in to the casing of it , asto oil well cheapest ive found is makro in wolverhampton @ 75 a ltr ion 20 ltr drums, so i think ill go for that buying asmuch as i need for a mth, at a time , probably going to do a 50/50 mix to start with and maybe increase it if this works well , but i will wait for the temp to warm up a little first i think.

 

ps hope this helps someone.

[Guest androcles]

My car's an R reg 2.1 TD; fuel system dash warning light came on day after I filled up with bio diesel but car running fine although engine continues to spin for a few seconds after ignition is switched off; I suspect my recent use of bio diesel may be coincidental to warning light's illumination as car has now done 82k and may not have had filter changed before; will replace fuel filter and any relevant bits before voicing clear opinion on bio diesel

 

Comments welcome…

[bigbrian]

Take care to ensure only Bosch pumps are used with vegoil, I used vegoil with my Lucas pump and it was ok for nearly a year on about 25% mix before the seals went. The car ran well on vegoil and after it started to leak I ran the car on anything, even my old engine oil, just remember to to get the viscosity right by adding a small amount of petrol.

It is important to remember that the fuel lubricates the pump and so if the viscosity is too high the pump won't get lubricated properly, especially on start-up

The only other drawback on running vegoil is that I was hungry all the time because it smelt like a chippy !!!