ColinC1 Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 A bit dissapointed with my exhaust. I have now got a loose baffle in the backbox which is rattling away, when 40 MPH is reached. Yes, its definately coming from inside the box. I assume the exhaust is not covered by the warrany for this type of thing, and I did not expect to have to buy a new exhaust untill after the 3rd year when it would likely blow due to rust, and I am only halfway through the normal life of the exhaust. I had a fault like this on a previous car many years ago and the only solution then was to blast the car at speed for a short time and hope the exhaust gasses would wedge the loose baffle in. I tried this last week and it has stayed quiet till now when it started rattling again.I have done the same trick today and its quiet once more, but for how long ?, it is a bit of a sickener, getting this rather rare fault due to bad internal welding. Other problem is that the whole exhaust seems to be one piece from rear to front, so it looks a rather expensive solution to put a new exhaust on already, just for a loose baffle. Is the catalitic convertor in the exhaust backbox, that would be even more costly ?Oh, I hate when this happens, ie, something not covered by warrenty ! Quote
downsman Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Colin, I have just had a look at my car and, the exhaust has a join just before the rear silencer above the rear suspension on the right side. I'm happy to tell you the catalyst is about 3 inches down from the exhaust manifold in front of the engine :) So a rear silencer shouldn't be too expensive, still annoying though! Quote
BarbsC1 Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 A bit dissapointed with my exhaust. I have now got a loose baffle in the backbox which is rattling away, when 40 MPH is reached. Yes, its definately coming from inside the box. I assume the exhaust is not covered by the warrany for this type of thing, and I did not expect to have to buy a new exhaust untill after the 3rd year when it would likely blow due to rust, and I am only halfway through the normal life of the exhaust. I had a fault like this on a previous car many years ago and the only solution then was to blast the car at speed for a short time and hope the exhaust gasses would wedge the loose baffle in. I tried this last week and it has stayed quiet till now when it started rattling again.I have done the same trick today and its quiet once more, but for how long ?, it is a bit of a sickener, getting this rather rare fault due to bad internal welding. Other problem is that the whole exhaust is one piece from rear to front, so it looks a rather expensive solution to put a new exhaust on already, just for a loose baffle. Is the catalitic convertor in the exhaust backbox, that would be even more costly ?Oh, I hate when this happens, ie, something not covered by warrenty !This is a known fault not enough spot welds on the silencer, the catalyst is part of the front pipe and is seperate, silencer should be covered by warranty all the dealer must do is get prior approval Quote
ColinC1 Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 This is a known fault not enough spot welds on the silencer, the catalyst is part of the front pipe and is seperate, silencer should be covered by warranty all the dealer must do is get prior approvalSilencer covered by warenty?, I will have to look into that. i hope your right ! Time to phone my dealer :) Quote
BarbsC1 Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Silencer covered by warenty?, I will have to look into that. i hope your right ! Time to phone my dealer :)My friend had hers changed for the same reason it only happens on the earlier C1's Quote
Martin_1973_uk Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Most new cars have one peice exhaust but this can be cut in to three sections when bits of it need replacing. Mine is only a year old but has always sounded sporty, baffly. Can't you just live with the sporty noise?Small exhausts are expensive. If they replace it under warranty I'd be surprised, how many miles has your car done? Quote
750Nig Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Our C1 is almost one year old, only done 3000 miles and we have the same problem. This is not the normal exhaust noise but a very tinny rattle. Give it a bit of welly and as stated before by ColinC1 the rattle goes away..............for awhile. Never thought the exhaust would be covered by warranty, let us know how you get on. I'll give it a go myself. Quote
107 Codf Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Our C1 is almost one year old, only done 3000 miles and we have the same problem. This is not the normal exhaust noise but a very tinny rattle. Give it a bit of welly and as stated before by ColinC1 the rattle goes away..............for awhile. Never thought the exhaust would be covered by warranty, let us know how you get on. I'll give it a go myself. Not being patronising here but do you mean when it drops low in rev's you get a little flutter? If so this is because its a three pot its a mixture of gas and air leaving the exhaust, all 3 pots do this Quote
ColinC1 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Posted April 9, 2008 Not being patronising here but do you mean when it drops low in rev's you get a little flutter? If so this is because its a three pot its a mixture of gas and air leaving the exhaust, all 3 pots do thisNo, this is a tinny rattle at a specific speed, in my case it starts at 40 MPH and above, and has just happened in the last few weeks. Its entirely different from the normal exhaust noise, you would notice the difference if you got this. By the way, My mileage is 10,000 miles over the one and a half years, so its not been driven that hard. Quote
Babs Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Babs: I would seriously take the car back to your dealer and complain. Presuming that is that the car was new when you bought it as it should be covered under warranty I would have thought. A bit dissapointed with my exhaust. I have now got a loose baffle in the backbox which is rattling away, when 40 MPH is reached. Yes, its definately coming from inside the box. I assume the exhaust is not covered by the warrany for this type of thing, and I did not expect to have to buy a new exhaust untill after the 3rd year when it would likely blow due to rust, and I am only halfway through the normal life of the exhaust. I had a fault like this on a previous car many years ago and the only solution then was to blast the car at speed for a short time and hope the exhaust gasses would wedge the loose baffle in. I tried this last week and it has stayed quiet till now when it started rattling again.I have done the same trick today and its quiet once more, but for how long ?, it is a bit of a sickener, getting this rather rare fault due to bad internal welding. Other problem is that the whole exhaust seems to be one piece from rear to front, so it looks a rather expensive solution to put a new exhaust on already, just for a loose baffle. Is the catalitic convertor in the exhaust backbox, that would be even more costly ?Oh, I hate when this happens, ie, something not covered by warrenty ! Quote
107 Codf Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Babs: I would seriously take the car back to your dealer and complain. Presuming that is that the car was new when you bought it as it should be covered under warranty I would have thought. Yeah take it back then, Items like this are usually covered up to 20,000 miles if they disagree, tell them you'll give Citroen head office a ring, after 10,000 miles of normal driving there shouldnt be one thing wrong with your car After 13,000 miles my clutch went and they replaced it without fuss, reason being they wouldnt adjust the bite height when I asked so in the end even though the clutch was completely up it was only just after the bite point. Quote
BarbsC1 Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Yeah take it back then, Items like this are usually covered up to 20,000 miles if they disagree, tell them you'll give Citroen head office a ring, after 10,000 miles of normal driving there shouldnt be one thing wrong with your car After 13,000 miles my clutch went and they replaced it without fuss, reason being they wouldnt adjust the bite height when I asked so in the end even though the clutch was completely up it was only just after the bite point.There will be no need to Threaten your dealer by saying "I will phone Citroen" all exhausts on Citroen cars and vans are covered by the 3 year warranty, like I have said before the only thing they have to do is put in a prior approval request to Citroen, But that stipulation is Citroen's doing so don't get annoyed by that delay as it is not the dealers fault Quote
ColinC1 Posted April 17, 2008 Author Posted April 17, 2008 I took my C1 in to Citroen yesterday, and they said a big fat NO to replacement of silencer... They will not accept an intermittant fault, like I have. By the time I get to the dealer (over 20 miles away), the baffle sound has gone, as gas pressure has locked it in place again, for a while. They will not accept a tape recording of the baffle sound . They have taken note of my problem and if the baffle noise becomes continious within the rest of the warrenty (one and a half years), they will replace the exhaust. Thats there rule, no ways round it, any intermittant fault is always a hopless case. The Joys of motoring :angry: Quote
BarbsC1 Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I took my C1 in to Citroen yesterday, and they said a big fat NO to replacement of silencer... They will not accept an intermittant fault, like I have. By the time I get to the dealer (over 20 miles away), the baffle sound has gone, as gas pressure has locked it in place again, for a while. They will not accept a tape recording of the baffle sound . They have taken note of my problem and if the baffle noise becomes continious within the rest of the warrenty (one and a half years), they will replace the exhaust. Thats there rule, no ways round it, any intermittant fault is always a hopless case. The Joys of motoring :angry:here we go again pin back your ears and listen lay on your back and look at the underside of the silencer either side of the silencer there should be 3 large spot welds along the length of it making a total of 6 if there is not 6 spot welds you are entitled to a silencer change, if you want I will e mail the paperwork that states this Quote
BarbsC1 Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I took my C1 in to Citroen yesterday, and they said a big fat NO to replacement of silencer... They will not accept an intermittant fault, like I have. By the time I get to the dealer (over 20 miles away), the baffle sound has gone, as gas pressure has locked it in place again, for a while. They will not accept a tape recording of the baffle sound . They have taken note of my problem and if the baffle noise becomes continious within the rest of the warrenty (one and a half years), they will replace the exhaust. Thats there rule, no ways round it, any intermittant fault is always a hopless case. The Joys of motoring :angry:here we go again pin back your ears and listen lay on your back and look at the underside of the silencer either side of the silencer there should be 3 large spot welds making a total of 6 if there is not you are entitled to a silencer change, if you want I will e mail the paperwork that states this Quote
ColinC1 Posted April 17, 2008 Author Posted April 17, 2008 here we go again pin back your ears and listen lay on your back and look at the underside of the silencer either side of the silencer there should be 3 large spot welds making a total of 6 if there is not you are entitled to a silencer change, if you want I will e mail the paperwork that states thisYou have PM Quote
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