ColinC1 Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Just got my latesst brochure today, (thinking bout getting a new city bug, as mine is now two year old already, does'nt time fly). A few changes.... ColourYellow has gone (well the greeny yellow that did not sell well), so if you want yellow it has to be a 107 :huh: We now just have ... red (non-mettalic), the rest are mettalic at cost... grey, silver (still termed grey), a blue, and a black. New Accessories (pardon me if some are not new to you)Parking sensors fitted £196Mudflaps now available and fitted (at last) £58Sliding and tilt glass sunroof factory fitted (yes, at last) .. price unknown (mine was £170 aftermarket)Fog lamp kit fitted £148Roof rack and box (short) £212 Special edition model .... C1 Code Wait for it guys, it comes as standard with the glove box lid .. Hallelluyah !!!!!! Just got to save up now :( Quote
TurboSlag Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 If you need parking sensors on a car that small you really ought not to be on the road! I'm keeping mine until nature reclaims it in 15 or 20 years time. Whats the point of buying cheap cars to save a few quid, only to wait a few years for the worst of the depreciation to hit and pass and then switch it? Quote
downsman Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Wait for it guys, it comes as standard with the glove box lid .. Hallelluyah !!!!!! :huh: Which model do your think you'll go for? Quote
CE08LDB Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 If you need parking sensors on a car that small you really ought not to be on the road! I'm keeping mine until nature reclaims it in 15 or 20 years time. Whats the point of buying cheap cars to save a few quid, only to wait a few years for the worst of the depreciation to hit and pass and then switch it? I agree with you there. If I could have afforded too I would baught my 05 C3 Exclusive off Motability at the end of the contract. Quote
Martin_1973_uk Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 If you think the C1 will last more than 10 years tehn good luck to you. 3 Cylinder cards rarely go beyond this point and the cheap build will show by then. Still at 6K for 10 years of motoring it is an absolute bargain. Yellow didn't sell well so why still offer it, it would only push the price up of the whole range. I purchased a glove box finally and have to say it looks really neat and well worth getting. So if anyone else is pondering getting one it is well worth doing. Not sure whether to go for the chome gear knob and spolier now. Why would you need a Sunroof, let alone parking sensors!!!!!!!! I hope to change mine in a years time to the Aygo or 107 as I think the front end of the C1 is the worst. A great car to buy though, you wont regret it. Quote
TurboSlag Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Crap, to be blunt. My old ma's S plate Charade is going strong with well past 100k miles on it. My 1991 FZR600 (150cc per pot) has over 70k miles and still revs safely to 14k. There is no inherent engineering reason why a small engine, or a 3 pot will last any less long than a different configuration. Indeed, compared to a typical 1.8 or 2 litre 4 pot family car engine it has several inherent advantages. Small engines with small pistons = lower inertial forces acting upon the reciprocating parts, therefore less chance of breakage with age. Less opportunity for wear on items such as cams, etc, as lower mass of the valves means lighter valve springs can be deployed, with less tension on the rockers, and less wear on the cam. It's also very tall geared for a small motor, so bore wear is no more a factor thn any other car. The build? Same phosphoertic paint procsess as used on the 407, so no reason to expect the body to last any less time than any other car. Electrics are almost all Denso or Toyota, so thy're probably better than the norm. Suspension is pretty standard, no surprises there. The only weak link where I think the miles would quickly show would be the seats, but as mine doesn't have any rears and the fronts are Cobras that isn't a factor for me. Given the same use, maintenance regime and level of care there's no reason why it will deteriorate faster than any other conventional car. Quote
Big Mac Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 If you need parking sensors on a car that small you really ought not to be on the road! I'm keeping mine until nature reclaims it in 15 or 20 years time. Whats the point of buying cheap cars to save a few quid, only to wait a few years for the worst of the depreciation to hit and pass and then switch it? Totally agree. I ll be keeping mine as long as it will last. The way i see it, i got myself a cheap little brand new car, i'll spend some money making it individual, spoliers and stuff. Once i get it the way i want, whats the point in selling it! Quote
Martin_1973_uk Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I would imagine that smaller parts mean they tend not to be as strong or take the strain. The engine is still under great pressure. I hope I'm wrong but how many cars over 10 years old do you see on the road? I still think they are great cars and at 6K are an absolute bargain in motoring terms. With Fiestas costing over 10K I can't see why the C1 is not in the best sellers list. Quote
TurboSlag Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 No, heavier parts have a harder time taking the strain due to inertial forces. For example, a large piston as it passes TDC at a crank speed of 3000rpm will have an inertial 'weight' of several tons at the top of its stroke. A smaller piston under the same conditions weighs much less , and therefore also gives other reciprocating items such as conrods etc an easier time. Big and beefy reciprocating parts are a liabilty, which is why you rarely get pistons beyond 500cc these days - lots of smaller pistons can withstand far higher rotational and reciprocating forces than a few pistons of the same capacity. I've had the motorbike since it was new in 1991 and it's tired but still going and I can see no technical reason why I won't squeeze 10 years minimum from my 107, and 15 realistically. Thats only 80 to 120 thousand miles (c.8k miles a year), with one ex techie owner from new. Thats hardly an unreasoanble likelyhood. I've only got to look at the cars at work thrashed to within an inch of their lives and do that mileage in 2 years to see that my expectations are actually quite conservative. If you reckon there aren't many old cars out there then have a leaf through the classified ads of your local newspaper to see the ancient high milers that folk are punting out, and most of these won't have been cared for or maintained as I plan for mine. 10 years old is only T reg, and in the time it's taken me to type this i've seen 2 drive past. Quote
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