Dpx42 Eolys Additive And Fap

[aspire_helen]

Hi all, just dropped in from my usual c5 forum at Yahoo

Has anyone found a cheaper source for DPX42 other than a Citroen or Peugeot main dealer? Citroen price today is £92.72+VAT (£108.95) for the 4.5ltr kit (=£24.21/ltr). I saw it on ebay this week for £117 + £12.50 postage - doh!. Last time I bought it,in 2006, I paid £68 from a Citroen dealer.

 

I would ask if anyone had a cheaper option for a FAP, but the prices Citroen now charge drives me to clean my own by reverse pressure wash. The frech DIY video on Youtube is very interesting and shows the removal, cleaning and refitting of the FAP - shame the narrative is in French. I believe his narrative said he had to rinse it through for an hour before the water ran clean. I tried to determine whether it had to dry before refitting but he did not show this. Has anyone done this?

Yesterday, the Citroen price for an exchange FAP was £301.57+VAT = £354 !!! (plus £160 deposit againts return of my removed FAP). What a rip off, and thats for an exchange , not even a new one. In 2006 it cost me £186 (plus £60 deposit) - I wish now i had kept my old FAP for £60!

 

On the plus side, I ran my 2001 2.2HDi C5 until 75000 miles before I got my first anti-pollution warning. Having an early model, I can just top up the tank without resetting the computer, provided I dont let it get to the 0.3ltr low level sitch. Last time, I added a ttal of 5ltrs at 65000 miles - so much for Citroen's 50000 mile service periods.

 

While Iam having a rant, Citoen quoted me £688 for a 100,000mile service, proudly announcing that inclluded the timing belt, but not FAP or eolys - what a rip off again - did the belt myslef for £40 in half a day.

Helen

[legin]

Hi all, just dropped in from my usual c5 forum at Yahoo

Has anyone found a cheaper source for DPX42 other than a Citroen or Peugeot main dealer? Citroen price today is £92.72+VAT (£108.95) for the 4.5ltr kit (=£24.21/ltr). I saw it on ebay this week for £117 + £12.50 postage - doh!. Last time I bought it,in 2006, I paid £68 from a Citroen dealer.

 

I would ask if anyone had a cheaper option for a FAP, but the prices Citroen now charge drives me to clean my own by reverse pressure wash. The frech DIY video on Youtube is very interesting and shows the removal, cleaning and refitting of the FAP - shame the narrative is in French. I believe his narrative said he had to rinse it through for an hour before the water ran clean. I tried to determine whether it had to dry before refitting but he did not show this. Has anyone done this?

Yesterday, the Citroen price for an exchange FAP was £301.57+VAT = £354 !!! (plus £160 deposit againts return of my removed FAP). What a rip off, and thats for an exchange , not even a new one. In 2006 it cost me £186 (plus £60 deposit) - I wish now i had kept my old FAP for £60!

 

On the plus side, I ran my 2001 2.2HDi C5 until 75000 miles before I got my first anti-pollution warning. Having an early model, I can just top up the tank without resetting the computer, provided I dont let it get to the 0.3ltr low level sitch. Last time, I added a ttal of 5ltrs at 65000 miles - so much for Citroen's 50000 mile service periods.

 

While Iam having a rant, Citoen quoted me £688 for a 100,000mile service, proudly announcing that inclluded the timing belt, but not FAP or eolys - what a rip off again - did the belt myslef for £40 in half a day.

Helen

I went to my local dealer for an M.O.T. plus 56,000 mile service.The car also needed diesel additive.The car was dropped off at 09.30.At 14.00 I get a phone saying that the additive was going to cost nearly £700[plus filter] and that the rear brakes needed replaceing at around £550!I was also told the service had yet to be done but the car had passed the M.O.T.So I paid for the work done and went to an indipendant in Bristol and got the fluid replaced for £170.Brakes are fine but will need doing soon,cost about £150.No need for the computer to be reset which the dealer said would have to be replaced.One thing,if the brakes needed all that work how did the car pass the M.O.T.? P.S.just to say the filterr was not replaced.

[Malcolm]

Hi. You say that having an early model 2.2 HDI you can just top up the fluid and not have to reset the computer. I have an 02 reg. Is that an early model? How can I find out?

 

Regards

 

Malcolm

[Guest Bobster]

Hi. You say that having an early model 2.2 HDI you can just top up the fluid and not have to reset the computer. I have an 02 reg. Is that an early model? How can I find out?

 

Regards

 

Malcolm

 

Hi,

 

My 2.2HDi is an 03 plate but the ORGA number shows it was built July 2002 and it is an early model. I paid £39 for a litre of Eolys from my dealer. I only bought a litre so that I could try out filling it myself as they wanted £94 labour to do it! The job was easy and next time I shall buy a larger quantity and would love to pay a sensible price.

 

Try Click Car Parts Ltd - they advertise on this site; they are quoting either £154 or £284 for a FAP for the 2.2 HDi including VAT. It seems there are two sorts fitted.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bob H.

[Guest Bobster]

Hi again,

 

On the C5_L site message 14345 says that the Eolys DPX42 is used on cars before ORGA number 9492. Cars from ORGA 9492 onwards use Eolys 176. The different fluids should not be mixed.

 

The ORGA number is found on the front door post and indicates the date of manufacture. If you go onto http://www.citroen.mb.ca/organr.html and enter your ORGA number and click on calculate, your cars date of manufacture will be revealed. Note with C5s they often hung around a bit and the date of registration may be even a year after manufacture.

 

Incidentally, how difficult is it to remove the FAP on a 2.2 HDi? - Haynes of course does not cover this model and the 2.0s are different.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bob H.

[Malcolm]

Hi

Early 2002 2.2HDI 59000 miles. Well thanks to all the advice from everyone I've topped up the eolys fluid [it took 4 litres so I guess it was getting quite low] and cleaned out the DPF. I took the DPF and the CAT off as one as the upper bolts on the DPF are very difficult to get to in situ. The bolts on the DPF were very tight and I was concerned they might break,however I had some new stainless 8mm nuts and bolts handy in case so naturally they didn't.

 

Cleaned out the DPF with a jet wash for about 35-45 minutes until the water ran clean and also jet washed the CAT as well. Wasn't sure if a CAT should be washed but I felt it could do little harm so I did anyway. Reassembled the DPF and CAT using copper grease on the bolts and refitted everything. Oh, and by the way before starting the job I made sure I disconnected the battery first as it seems to me if the the car's awake and knows what you're doing it usually makes a fuss and throws up a fault code just to spoil all your efforts.

 

Anyway the end result is the car's running perfectly, no fault codes and at a total cost of about £130 for the eolys fluid. If anyone else is thinking taking on this job go ahead and do it. It really isn't that difficult and the potential savings make it very worth while.

 

Regards

 

Malcolm