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Help! Order Placed 4 Weeks Ago But Citroen Dealer Can't Get Me
TurboSlag replied to shilley's topic in C1 - General
Aye mate, tell Martin Shurmer that Richard the 'Turboslag' said you should call him, and he'll know exactly who you mean ;) . The guys a bit of a God in Peugeot club circles for the deals he knocks out. -
Help! Order Placed 4 Weeks Ago But Citroen Dealer Can't Get Me
TurboSlag replied to shilley's topic in C1 - General
TPCA who build the C1/107/Gaygo close the factory for 4-6 weeks in August for essential line maintenance and upgrades. give it a few weeks and they'll be in full swing again. Pandas might be easier to obtain today, but try buying one of those when Fiat close their plant each March for similar reasons, and you then gotta live with lower residuals and higherrunning costs... Try phoning Perrys in Blackburn and asking for Martin Shurmer, the sales manager. He's a mate of mine and I reckon he'd be able to get you a 107 to a superior spec for lower cost than the C1 you're after. He did exactly that for me. -
Storm, mount the speakers int he panels adjacent to the rear seats. Not only does it sound better, it removes the need to unplug speakers etc when you want to remove theparcel shelf. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z79/The_Endorser/107%20Pictures/P8270009.jpg
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Whhoooaaaaaa there feller. whats a Com 2000? You'll have to repost the symptoms in english, with sentences and punctuation so i can understand it.
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Work continues apace. I been threatening to install my new speakers for a while now, so though I'd better pull my finger out. As a result, my new 5.25" Juice speakers (with tasteful gold/orange cones, sexy ;) ) are now in place, and sound soooo much better. Now I need to get some 4" Kenny's in the front. There's room behind the panel for quite a deep speaker basket in there, and even 6 x 9"s would be easy if that tugged your rug. While I was in there I finished retrimming the boot area, which is now a bit larger (and more useful for lugging gym & Tae Kwon Do kit, take aways, shopping, dead bodies rolled up in carpet etc), for which I used speaker enclosure carpet. Not only was it disgustingly cheap, it's a near perfect match for the original carpet. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z79/The_Endorser/107%20Pictures/P8270009.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z79/The_Endorser/107%20Pictures/P8270010.jpg Next up is to finish trimming the fuel sender cover, and it's done. When my wallet recovers it'll be time to install a small sub, possibly an active unit in the interests of space saving, in the redundant spare wheel well. My new seats will be in stock tomorrow, and should be with me early next week, so more interior shenanigans to follow.
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Er, there should be no detectable play or undue noise from a column UJ - apart from being ominous, it's also an MOT failure when that rolls around. There's been an issue with so C1/107s with the electro hydraulic PAS pump going squiffy too.
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"It's a known fault", yet is totally unheard of on 107s?
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i'v been running an induction kit for a while - the cold air feed makes zip difference, so i binned it. I think this was partly because there's such a huge volume of free air around the engine anyway, and partly becuase cold air is less able to support atomised fuel without issues of condensation. Folk assume that because stonking cold air feeds are de rigeur on turbo cars (where the huge heat caused by the compression of the intake air causes problems and a colder intake is genuinely beneficial) it's importnt on a normall aspirated motor, when it's really largely irrelevant without a blower. Mine certainly gives a punchier midrange, albeit at the probable expense of power at the top end of the rev range, but as I rarely let the needle get to the redline (peak torque is at 3600rpm, so revving to the stratospher is just pointless) it ain't an issue. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z79/The_Endorser/107%20Pictures/img684.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z79/The_Endorser/107%20Pictures/img688.jpg
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Yes, Vauxhall administer theirs in exactly the same way. Nonetheless, if it's an official UK car it will have 3 years warranty, irrespective of from whom it is purchased, and Citroen will have to honour that themselves as that's precisely what they advertise, thus making it one of the terms of a legally binding contract as an "advertised incentive to buy". Most C1s/107s tend to suffer their faults fairly early on (the recurring clutch problems, before PSA resolved them, were evident usually well within 10k miles). Now the oldest of these cars are past their 1st MOT, time has shown that the clutch, rattly tailgate, craky/rattly seat, and other recurring faults crop up pretty swiftly and most cars, by their 3rd year, are usually pretty well sorted and are proving more reliable during this period than their 1st 12 months.
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I've had 2 x 107s and never had a problem with either, despite many folk reporting various issues. The 107 item is identical. The Aygo one fits, but is styled differently and not everyone likes it (plus it doesn't have the 'cup holders'). It has a larger handle, but isn't fundamentally any stronger.
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Any C1 originally imported to the country by Citroen GB will have the full 3 years warranty, irrespective of who actually ends up selling it to the public. The exception are cars sold to the emergency services, or for use as taxis/Private Hire vehicles, in which case different warranty terms & conditions apply.
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I got my 107 Urban, specced up with rev counter, front fogs, rear speakers, SP mesh grille and glovebox lid for just under £6300. It already has colour coded mirrors, door handles, keyless entry etc, so was a bargain compared to the C1s available at the same price. My previous 107, a Sport XS, was £6200 and in adition to all the above had leather steering wheel, leather gaiter, red interior trim, body decals, front bumper canards, twin centre exit stingers on the exhaust, alloy wheels etc. I drove this for a year, racked up 12k miles, serviced it myself at 10k miles (£22 for genuine pug parts) and sold it a year on for £6000 - only a £200 loss. You couldn't buy a reliable used car for £200 that'd last you a year. For some bizzarre reason the 107 seems to hold it's value best out of the B-Zero trio. I prefer the look of the C1, but the enormous levels to which Pug dealers are discounting nowadays means you're simply getting a lot more car and equipment for your £££ with them at the mo. I never gave a stuff about the new reg myself - partly cos no one cares, partly cos it's the year and not the reg which dicates the value, and partly cos you get some of the best deals at the tail end of the reg 'year' when the dealers are at their quietest. If someone wants to give away extra money for no other purpose than to have some slightly different lettering on their number plate that most people won't even notice (cos most people don't understand the current registration system) then be my guest. Leaves even cheaper deals for canny buyers like me to mop up - why go for a cheap car to save money, then pay more than you have to?
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I'm sure they will have tried the "diagnostics", but once again the myth of the word outweighs its real usefulness. Unelss the fault is either detected by one of the engine sensors, or is itself cause by a faulty sensor or management component (such as the ECU etc) then it won't log a trouble code. The manifold pressure sensor won't cause the wally lights to go off/on, but would cause the engine to stumble. Chuck it back at the dealer, and remind them of their obligations under the sale of goods act. If they can't fix it then they should refund your lady, or give her one which isn't broken. If a resolution is a long time coming, then lean on Citroen GB and/or your finance company.
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Cars are generally as easy to work on as ever, it's just a different set of skills that are easy to acquire. Instead of being able to strip a carb, you'll need to know where to poke the probes of a multimeter. There are several good books on fuel injection & engine management. It's simple, if you have the inclination. The rest of the bits (suspenders, steering, gears, brakes etc are much as they ever were. The flip side of these extended "warranties" is also evident. They aren't "warrnties" in the proper sense of the word, but a mechanical breakdown insurance policy that fail to cover more items than they do. Having spannered in the trade i've met many folk such as yourselves who've been glad they had them, and even more who paid out to find they didn't cover the item that eventually failed. Some policies ay specify OE parts, but any competent engineer (even yourself) can do the work - that's your right enshrined in civil case law. Naturally, most folk don't know this and pay for expensive servicing, often at the dealer from which they purchased the policy. It's a balance of risk/reward that only you can decide - in the rare event I keep a car beyond 3 years I usually have a pretty shrewd idea of how its behaving (else it'd be chopped in for a new one anyway if it's been irksome) and i've never bothered with these "warranties" and have never suffered a large repair bill in excess of the cost of a "warranty" policy in 23 years of driving.
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A) I took the centre dash panel out 9a 10 minute job, with only a single screw to undo). I covered the rear of the panel in masking tape, marked it out, and carefully used a scalpel to cut it out. The plastic is very soft and the scalpel did the job in minutes. ;) Not really, certainly not at that point of the panel, but you take it out and cut if from behind anyway. C) Having measured very carefully, the Scangauge was a firm interference fit within the sut out. Once in, a couple of dabs of grab adhesive were applied to the rear to stop it vibrating loose. D) Bottom of the dash, by the rivers left knee.
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I went for red on my 107, solely cos none of the metallic colours were exciting enought to pay another £350 for. Shame you don't have the red rear lights. The current trend is to remove the rubbing strips from ones C1/107, so its interesting to see someone going in t'other direction there.
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A 90, remapped, EGR blanked off, with an Allard intercooler. Most of my mileage is country B road and Urban.
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I used to manage in excess of 50mpg virtually every fillup on my HDi, so i can't see what the fuss is about.
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They're not recessed. the strips are self adhesive and peel off very easily. you'll need a little solvent to get the gunge off, but when mine came off hardly any gunge remained on the paintso it was easy.
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Change you carpet mats for rubber ones. This'll stop the movement of your feet on the nylon charging you up. Job done. Don't waste your money on these static discharge strips - they don't do anything that your tyres wont.
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The problem with these foam cleaners is that they lift the dirt from the bodywork and suspend it, and then the process of wiping the foam off rubs the dirt against the paints surface. Furniture polish is quite popular for use on paint, especially in bodyshop circles. The chemical make up of modern automotive paint finishes is quite similar to the polurethane based finishes on modern furniture, so its quite well suited to it, though i couldn't vouch for how long the finish will last when compared to a conventional wax or sealer.
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It's not an MOT testable item, so it won't be commented on (unless it was so bad that the test couldn't be conducted, in which case it wouldn't have got the ticket anyway). You can never be certain how it'll go in a small claims court, but unless you can demonstrate that the chap had a] knowledge of the fault and and thus misled you, and, b] that, on the balance of probabilities, the fault was present at the moment of sale, then I don't think you'll get very far.
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If the C1 is anything like the 107, then some cars'll have the wiring to the rears, some won't. In any case, it's an easy job to lay in and connect some, though you'll need a 4 speaker ISO adptor. The rear shelf, flimsy as it is, is more than up to the job of supporting some good 5" speakers. 6x9" can be fitted, but look silly as they need to go in at an odd angle. I'm currently selling a genuine Peugeot factory parcel shelf and speaker kit for £50, though you'll need to collect as I won't post.
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It's the first time i've heard of it on the C1/107. Check your insurance as some policies give free/cheap windscreen replacement only, and some do full glass cover to the same level.
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Standard carpet mats are only £20 a set from the dealers, deluxe ones a little more. A trawl of egay should turn up some cheaper sets.