hi all, im Kieran. 22 and from sydney australia. basically i bought my first ever car at the start of this year (a new toyota yaris auto) and while its a nice little car, ive decided i want to learn to drive manual as i use the engine braking/ 3-2-L gears in the auto nonstop and im pretty technically minded so i think i will get the hang of a manual and enjoy the extra control. im contemplating trading in my yaris next year and getting a Citroen C4 coupe 1.6 petrol manual with the full glass panoramic roof. citroens are pretty rare here in aus, but all the people at my work loves them, my boss got a new c4 saloon/hatchback this year and loves it. just thought i would say hi and that im here to learn about the car and find out about any consistant problems people have been having to try and help me make a decision. my 1.5 yaris is zippy but i find it runs out of guts if i have 2 or more passengers or on a hot day, i know the c4 is only a 1.6 so its not much of a performance gain if any - but im guessing the manual transmission will help with sluggishness. my main concern with it is that it wont be zippy or powerful enough, and the 2.0 coupe (we only have two choices for the coupe here. 1.6 and 2.0 - both manual) is double the price and out of my price range by far. basically just any information or guidence would be appreciated. so yes, thanks and ill look forward to poking around the forum and learning a bit :wub: