looking like im going to get one so far then. For a moment there I thought I had been ripped off with my VTS haha, but yeah I ave a diesel one. I thought it was only called VTS in diesel though?? and VTR+ for the petrol version? Maybe im being daft! Having never fit a spolier before do you think I could do it - and does it come already sprayed ready for my black car? think i pm'd you about your exhaust - mine doesnt look like yours is that a petrol/diesel difference?