I guess I shouldn't complain about the price of the Michelins when diesel is at £0.53 a litre including our road user tax! Sounds like I may as well go for the Bridgestones, the Michelins have chewed themselves out in 30,000Km - which I don't consider to be very good. However I do drive over some very windy steep bush (forest) roads every day to get to work, and our roads are generally made from a volcanic chip which tends to be pretty hard on tyres. Thanks for all the help anyway. Rick