hi just got your reply i got them out all i had to do was remove 2 of the pins that didnt line up, i used a piece of card to fit over the bolts and marked the holes first then put the key in a vice and hit them with a cold chisle until they snapped, you will have to clean out the hole on the key i used a counter sink bit , the pins are hardened and snap of quite easily this left 2 pins almost exactly in line, i decided on impact driver and socket to remove no problems :D i hope this helps some other member in times of woe :D :D