Hi Paul at the mo I am trying to learn the navigation of the emanual I have downloaded. from the inputs i have put in so far such as the rear 12 socket is listed with a fuse on the battery f6. And yet as said there is no fuse box on my battery . The info I have gained so far dosnt say where the fuses are when its not attached to the battery . The emanuals are not entirely user friendly and need a lot of practice before you can be confident of what you are doing or seeing. Thanks for your help. My thought s at the mo are that there is a fuse box on this car somewhere that is not part of the engine bay one or the dash one its only ident is (f6 in BFDB) which translates to battery fuse box.(there is no battery fuse box) I feel I'm going round in circles here I will keep you posted