Hi There - C4 Vts

[ifigureditout]

haha suppose. i havent seen one and it seems impossible to find that many pictures of the c4 interior in detail!

[welshys90]

if you search ebay you get some ok pictures nothing to grand tho, but it lets you get a general idea, also if you have any children or friends that are over 6ft tall have fun fittin them into the back because theyres not much room if your tall yourself (im 6ft 4 and theres only 3 of my friends can fit behind me)

[ifigureditout]

all for meeee haha. very rarely have anyone in the back anyway

[welshys90]

ye well i am the same but if it comes to a gig or something then i do pile the car up but other than that its normally pretty cool but i would suggest gettin one, citroen are doin a 48 hour test drive which you could try out one of the cars in to see if you like it

[ifigureditout]

if only i was over 25 lol.

 

do they do it on the vts 180? might be worth getting my parents to do it and i can see what its like in the flesh

[welshys90]

erm not sure it says on their site on the the main first page, but then again they dont do such a thing as a VTS 180 so ud have to see in a citroen garage but yeh theres nothing 2 say your parents get it and then u have a shot in a quiet area

[ifigureditout]

so whats the interior feel like? solidly built? or a bit cheap?

 

that centre display looks so nice, like my gadgets lol n i dnt think theres another car near it for that. around this pricegroup anyway

[welshys90]

well my interior i dont have leather, but mines looks really quite sporty and is so comfy its unbelievable some of it tho is a wee bit cheap but nothing 2 desperate most of it is solid and the bit love the most is the arm rest between the front 2 seats moves forward if u grab it from the back and pull it slides the top of it forward which means u can change gear while havin ur arm on teh arm rest quite a lazy thing yes but oh so brilliant i dont know whether thats optional up grade or thats like on every car tho,

[ifigureditout]

lol thats some lazy gear changing.

 

not really a big c4 community online, unless you know any other sites?

 

i mean im a member of www.cliosport.net and that site is wonderful and you can find out everything. theres nothing like that for the c4.

[welshys90]

yeh i must admit that theres not alot, i may start up a C4 Meet site etc, but other than that theres not much i can find on it, personally i think its quite terrible because its not as if the cars slow the cars fast as hell and theres nothing on it! ill need to start a site, on one of the other threads theres a thing about another site and there is one up but just now i cant member the address ill modify it into this post once i get it in a sec

 

 

this is the other site not much on it tho

 

 

c4owners.co.uk

[ifigureditout]

yeah its an amazing design inside and out. and as you said its fast as hell and economical too. compared to other 1.6s and 2.0s of similar size it is an amazing car. you also get tonnes of gadgets for what you pay

[welshys90]

yeh, i mean theres a few guys on here that have wierd problems on it etc but so far nothing has went wrong with mine apart from the back seat dilemma ive got but its nothing thats the end of the world itll take about 10 minutes 2 fix i reckon

[ifigureditout]

yeah i think i just was a little wary as cars have their brand images dont they. i think all new cars are reasonably good now tbh. my mate has a bmw 116i n i was suprised at how poor quality that was though.

 

would be nice for a site where you could get advice. a nice site with young drivers, i mean if i get a c4 i would like to make a few changes to it, nothing too big but a nice exhaust to help it hummmm nicely and maybes lower it.

[welshys90]

yeh and add a couple of grand to your insurance bill haha, ive only ever seen one modified,

 

 

http://hordeofwolves.free.fr/gal/magny_cours_2005/village_pro/citroen%20c4%20full%20option%201.JPG

http://hordeofwolves.free.fr/gal/magny_cours_2005/village_pro/citroen%20c4%20full%20option%202.JPG

 

but thats the only one ive seen i would like to see more, but as im only 17 the insurance doesnt take kindly to me adding parts on to my car as my first quote for me on the car alone was 6k however its nowhere near that now but i wouldnt like to see it go up until ive got it at low amounts

[ifigureditout]

like that rear exhaust on that car.

 

insurance are quite generous if its just a backbox, if it doesnt add performance they wont add too much. they added £16 to my policy for the backbox on my clio and nothing for a pipercross air filter cos it does nothing to the car but makes it sound nice, depends who your insured with though.

 

will be getting a c4 when i have my one yrs no claims i think n its gna cost me about £1750 fully comp on my own name. would cost me £4500 if i got it now lol. might get on my dads name and save even more lol

[welshys90]

yeh u can buy it as a kit if u search google for C4 body kit with the exhausts, but mines was £6000 for just me no claims and passed my test about 2/3 months haha, so i put my mum on it n its now £670 which isnt bad, i didnt know a back box didnt add to your insurance i know that if u de handle the doors and de badge it, it doesnt cost on ur insurance, but i suppose it depends who you have it with, that was at magny cours which is a french car show i found the pictures of it on google i was quite surprised and happy i found them because i loved that car

[ifigureditout]

some insurers think if you have a backbox your going to crash and bump it up loads which is understandable with all the chavs in corsas about but it depends who your with. mind you i hear the vts 180 makes a pretty sweet sound anyway.

 

cant wait to go from 80bhp to 180bhp lol

[welshys90]

lol your insurance cant wait to go from £300 to £9000 either haha, na i know one reason i hate britain, my dad now lives in canada, which is the whole reason i got the car, not bad for free tho, but he was sayin over there his next door neighbour has a son thats 16 he has a 2005 Ford Mustang GT he paid just over $20000 canadian dollars for it which is under £10000 hes modified it to hell and he pays about $56 dollars a month insurance on it because they can drive at 16 most of their premiums are idiotically cheap because they dont have the idiots.... well they do but not like over here, man i wish i could go and live in canada haha

[ifigureditout]

they dont have corners to go round over there lol.

 

well when im replacing my car with 1 yrs no claims at 18 these are my best qoutes:

 

C4 vts 180 - 1750

clio 182 - 5200

civic type r - 5500

alfa 147 2.0 - 2200

[welshys90]

well i can see that you have money if you can afford them at 18, im 17 and i could bearly afford a car i think it was a spot of luck my dad was movin, and i swapped him the car for a bottle of water at the airport which i feel was totally fair! :D but again its the little words like 2.0 and type r and 182 and 180 and sport, i dont think theyve cottoned on 2 citroens way of makin the VTS faster than the VTR for a long while i thought it was the vts then vtr then the vtr+ then i realised it wasnt but its a very sneaky and cheap car... also if u put girls on your insurance it brings it down alot because theyre better drivers apparantly :S dunno who gave insurance companys that idea! i mean no woman is in the Grand Prix ive still to see a woman compete in it never mind win it!

[ifigureditout]

well i cant afford those premiums for the type r and 182. but i could if i bought the cars used if you see what i mean.

 

well ive fallen into a new job, so new job new car.

 

idiots havent got their hands on the c4 and i dont think they will hence the cheap insurance.

 

you know anything about serious modifications to this car, just out of interest?

 

surely a turbo couldnt be that hard to put on one of these and it could be a silly fast car

[welshys90]

well the VTR+ hdi has a supercharger in it but thats about the best of it that i really know, ive looked into modification looks but not the engine

[wozza]

HDI's are turbo diesels like most modern diesels.

 

no turbo petrol engines at all there is one i know of but its been an after market job. And no turbo charging is never gonna be cheap same as its around £7000 to do a decent job on a 182 turbo conversion. think bbpt charge around that and so do ktec.

 

mods same engine as a 206 gti 180 so anything that can be found for the pug will bolt into the C4 or the 307 gti etc. So theres a few companies about offering bits and pieces for them.

 

Hard ot get a decent suspension setup for the C4 though i have found 1 though now. Remember the car is only 2 years old though about this time mods start showing up.

 

Unfortunately doubt the C4 will get as popular as cliosport for a long time due to the fact there fairly rare on the road and they have not been around for over 10 years.

 

Compared to a clio handling isnt quite as good more grippy than the clio though but you cant just hurl the C4 into a corner like you can with a clio. compared to the 182 it'd murder the C4 in everything speed handling grip etc but the 182 is one of the best fwd cars around for a reason.

 

Build quality puts the clios to shame interior feel isnt far from VAG quality.

 

The reason on the citroen site you didnt see the VTS180 stats is you need to click the button that say Coupe the engine only comes in the coupe.

 

And dont insure it under your dads name we dont need more people commiting insurance fraud if you cant afford the insurance you cant afford the car.

[sammys hdi vts]

You have to test drive these cars and decide what you really want from your car. Neither of the C4 VTS cars are in the current HOT hatch territory, new civic typre r, focus st, golf gti etc are all pumping around 200bhp or more, on top of that the C4 is heavy. If you want a zippy hot hatch go for something else. If you can cope with a lukewarm hatch that looks completely different then maybe the C4 is for you. If you are used to driving a petrol car then a diesel is very different particualarly the 2.0 hdi, you need to short shift to get the most out of the torque band, 2000-3500 rpm. But for normally driving its brilliant, no revs needed and bam your gone, gives a massive thrust in your back, plus its great if you drive on motorways 6th gear and pulls well at 90 plus, got 50.5mpg over a 800 mile trip london to the lakedistrict, aircon and cruise control set to 85ish. You have to test drive the car, ps, petrol vts only has a 5 speed box! Last point, the only difference between a petrol and diesel is the rear bumper, petrol has a chrome tailpipe, diesel has a concealed exhaust.

[welshys90]

ahh didnt know if there was a difference and if ur puttin a backbox on it it shouldnt matter whether its petrol or diesel