Just Seen 5 Seater C4 Pic

[citroeneddie]

Looks about same size as Xsara Pic. Spare under. Seats don't come out completely. Looked nice in the new metallic light blue. Due out March 12th.

 

Wait until cashbacks and glitches sorted.

[wozza]

Now all we need to know is whens th facelift coupe / hatch coming?

[C4VTS]

Now all we need to know is whens th facelift coupe / hatch coming?

 

Who said there is one officially?

 

I would not expect, or hope to see one for at least a year. :o

[wozza]

Was on a website with a road map for the C4 of the various versions. Theres also "supposed" to be a C4 CC coming out which will be like the 307 CC.

 

They need to offer a more powerful engine though as the 180bhp petrol engine is lacking a bit compared to the competition now. I mean the new Focus RS is gonna be 280bhp.

[iannez]

they most probably would if they thought ppl would be willing to spend 20 grand plus on a c4 but lets be honest who would when you are looking at roughly the same money as scoobies. st and rs focuses etc. they would not compete in that market.

[C4VTS]

they most probably would if they thought ppl would be willing to spend 20 grand plus on a c4 but lets be honest who would when you are looking at roughly the same money as scoobies. st and rs focuses etc. they would not compete in that market.

 

I agree with the above post.

 

Citroen has always stood for being an affordable brand.

 

If you start adding 200+HP engines on a C4 the insurance costs alone would put most people off it, let alone the purchase price.

[wozza]

Im not sure the C4 is doing well in the WRC ford used that as backing for there sporty focus'. Why cant citroen. Renault did it as well with some of there cars. Clio williams, Megane F1 etc. And they stuck a 3litre V6 in a clio and priced it at £27,000 it still sold.

 

If they do something daft with the car there would be a sort of cult following and more people willing to look at them. The sporty models usually sell the lower end models. And if ford can put the new RS out there with 4wd and 280bhp and sell it as what people are saying a rally car for the road why cant Citroen?

 

The focus is very similar in terms of build quality, handling, power etc as most of the C4 models. And if they can sell sporty versions when there normal focus' are so cheap whats the problem?

 

And on another note i saw a C6 on the road yesterday first time i've seen someone driving one.

[Z3M Roadster]

And on another note i saw a C6 on the road yesterday first time i've seen someone driving one.

 

The reason you have only seen 1 C6 on the road, is because no one is willing to spend loads of money on a Citroen. This will probably also go for the Hot C4's, what's the point when you can buy a VXR/Cupra/Focus ST which won't break down at every opportunity

[ifigureditout]

The reason you have only seen 1 C6 on the road, is because no one is willing to spend loads of money on a Citroen. This will probably also go for the Hot C4's, what's the point when you can buy a VXR/Cupra/Focus ST which won't break down at every opportunity

 

I disagree. If the C4 had that little bit more performance i would get one straight away. people are willing to spend that much on renaults, look at their success now. and a company that is doing so well in WRC should use this to shift some cars, and they need a hot hatch rather than a luke warm one.

 

if the c4 had that little extra i would get it as it has the looks over any of its possible competitors, including the vxr.

[Stuey]

there is a 3.0 V6 in the PSA line-up it is in the top spec 407's. It should fit in the C4 as the engine bay is massive. Maybe it was always designed to accomadate a larger engine at some point in its life.

[Z3M Roadster]

I disagree. If the C4 had that little bit more performance i would get one straight away. people are willing to spend that much on renaults, look at their success now. and a company that is doing so well in WRC should use this to shift some cars, and they need a hot hatch rather than a luke warm one.

 

if the c4 had that little extra i would get it as it has the looks over any of its possible competitors, including the vxr.

 

 

You might buy one but most people wouldn't. I don't see that many Hot Meganes and I do circa 40k miles a year.

 

Amazed that Peugeot still bother making that 3.0V6 they didn't sell many in the 406 guise as it was too expensive and thirsty. They ought to make some more interesting diesels.

[ifigureditout]

The megane obviously does well enough. plus i feel its all about image building. citroen have to use the wrc side more. renault use the F1 and make hot hatches that sell and help the rest of the range. no one really knows about the c4 despite it having one of the most memorable adverts in the last few years and i feel citroen dont do the car justice.

 

the coupe shape looks faster than it is, i think its begging for performance to go with the looks

[Z3M Roadster]

Personally I think they should sort out the reliability, build quality and customer service before they start trying to make quicker cars.

[wozza]

Well look at a lot of so called prestige cars now that are all suffering from known build quality issues. Mercedes for one. There dealers arent that great either least the one round the corner form me isnt its bloody awful from speaking to people who use it. My Citroen dealer sounds like its better.

 

But you do have a first version model of the C4 in all fairness it was bound to be worse than the newer ones which arent that bad. Judging by review sites most people seem to be praising the car lot more people totally happy with it in everyway than there people that hate it.

 

Most reviewers have said build quality is not that bad either. I think it just depends on how old /new the car is if its an older first version like yours its likely to suffer form a lot more glitches and issues that were refined as the years went on.

 

If they had some more performance targeted versions they would do well. I mean the Saxo VTS sold amazingly but i see very few C2's on the road in comparison. mainly cause the C2 VTS is a fair bit slower. Maybe if they drop the 1.6 turbo into it might find a few more people looking at them. The C2 VTR's gearbox is naff.

 

The C4's 180bhp N/A engine is not really the right engine for the car in my point of view. The revs need to be wound up way to much and just does not have enough power to move a car like that compared to other marques with similar size cars who all have 2.0 turbo's. If it wants to compete there gonna have to join the rest of them and make a 2.0 turbo to get the sporty versions selling better. But keep the N/A on for those that cant afford the turbo version.

 

Renault have done it for years making sportier cars and they always sold well. The clios have appauling build quality but you see loads of 172 / 182's on the road because there a bargain performance wise. Citroen need to follow suit. If they did i reckon they would sell more. And I have seen a few meganes the only thing is a lot of people are put off buying them due to how many "special" versions they release so they depreciate like a brick. But as a performance car there the best hatch that size aorund. Faster than a focus st 0 - 100 - 0. Better handling and a remap takes the things up to the 270+bhp mark. For £300. And considering you can pick them up for £14,000 new thats a bit of a bargain. And as a result i am seeing more people looking at them.

[lee_marshuk]

I've said it before....but had there been a 2.7 Diesel or 3.0 Petrol in the C4, I'd have bought it.

[idlerobbo]

I've said it before....but had there been a 2.7 Diesel or 3.0 Petrol in the C4, I'd have bought it.

 

Don't you find its what you get used to? I had a 1.4 VT first, i thought it went like lightning...

 

Now a 2.0 VTS... at first JEEEEEESUS! now it seems a little slow! Gotta get round to that re-map...

[ifigureditout]

i think 2.0l turbo like the rest of them is the way forward. lower running costs, tunability, the hot hatch feeling.