The Sound Of Music

[clanixion]

Just fitted a set of Pioneer speakers to go along with my JVC CD/MP3 player and boy is it different. The Pioneers are a drop in replacement for the standard ones and took about 20 minutes to fit. In comparison to the weedy factory fitted efforts the sound quality is astounding. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a big HiFi kind of guy, the JVC cost £90 and the speakers were £25 for the pair, delivered top my door. A huge change for a little cash.

[Oxymoron]

Hi,
I've been thinking of changing my speakers.....what model are the Pioneer speakers and are they an easy fit?....I don't want to have to start hacking wires or bodywork around!
Cheerz. :)

[DesdinovaUK]

[quote name='clanixion' date='Nov 18 2004, 11:07 PM'] the speakers were £25 for the pair, [/quote]
Have you only replaced the door speakers?

[clanixion]

The speakers are Pioneer TSG1718's. There are a more expensive version at about twice the price. I got them from UK Audio Shops - www.ukaudioshop.com

So far I have only done the door speakers and they were very easy to fit. Take out the old ones by twisting off the grill (mine had already fallen off) undo the 4 screws and a plug. Plug new speaker wires into wiring loom socket, screw into door, fit new grills. About 20 minutes including crimping the connectors on to the new speaker wires.

HTH

[CAPPER33]

IVE FITTED SONY SPEEEKER IN MY BERLINGO. FRONT AND REAR AND A ALPINE 1004R HEAD UNIT WITH SAT NAV & DVD PLAYER.

MUTCH BETTER THAN THE FACTORY FITTED HEAD UNIT

[Guest Lingos Rock]

Just fitted a set of Pioneer speakers to go along with my JVC CD/MP3 player and boy is it different. The Pioneers are a drop in replacement for the standard ones and took about 20 minutes to fit. In comparison to the weedy factory fitted efforts the sound quality is astounding. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a big HiFi kind of guy, the JVC cost £90 and the speakers were £25 for the pair, delivered top my door. A huge change for a little cash.

 

Hi, i've got a 53 Multispace. Anyone changed their speakers recently? The standard ones have just about given up. Any recommendations? Suppliers?

The Pioneers mentioned in the thread seem to have disappeared.

 

Thanks

[tronboy]

It seems I can only read the "lo fi" version of this site....

 

Anyway. The best upgrades to the audio I can recommend for cheap money is to remove the door cards completely, fit sound deadening panels to the inside of the door skin (the type that mould with heat from a hairdryer are good) then refit a set of Alpine twin cones in place of the cheap Czech or Polish standard units. Fit directly to the door apertures, not to the door cards as per the original, and bolt them tightly in place. Refit door cards over the new installation.

 

Next unclip the tweeter grilles in the top of the dash, unclip the wire connector block clipped to the grille and fit either a pair of Citroen supplied Harman/Kardon units for about £30 or buy an Alpine SXE-1750S kit which comprises a decent pair of bass/mid drivers for the doors and a pair of tweeter units which will fit at a squeeze, although not as neatly as the Harman/Kardons.

 

Frankly I find it a bit stingy that Citroen don't fit tweeters as standard since the difference they make is very noticeable for a few extra francs' outlay!

 

Anyhow, Deffo worth the effort, and the installation is easily swapped into your next 'Lingo!

[Guest Lingos Rock]

Thanks, I hadn't realised there was no tweeter under the dash panel.

 

Sorry for being a bit thick but what do you mean by door apertures & door cards? How do u bolt to the aperture?

 

On my lingo the speakers are screwed onto a speaker moulding.

 

Couple of other questions.

 

How do you connect the new speakers, have you used an adapter to fit the wiring loom to the new speaker or scotchloks?

 

How do you get the door panels off?

 

Any pictures of your installation would be appreciated.

 

Ta.

 

 

 

It seems I can only read the "lo fi" version of this site....

 

Anyway. The best upgrades to the audio I can recommend for cheap money is to remove the door cards completely, fit sound deadening panels to the inside of the door skin (the type that mould with heat from a hairdryer are good) then refit a set of Alpine twin cones in place of the cheap Czech or Polish standard units. Fit directly to the door apertures, not to the door cards as per the original, and bolt them tightly in place. Refit door cards over the new installation.

 

Next unclip the tweeter grilles in the top of the dash, unclip the wire connector block clipped to the grille and fit either a pair of Citroen supplied Harman/Kardon units for about £30 or buy an Alpine SXE-1750S kit which comprises a decent pair of bass/mid drivers for the doors and a pair of tweeter units which will fit at a squeeze, although not as neatly as the Harman/Kardons.

 

Frankly I find it a bit stingy that Citroen don't fit tweeters as standard since the difference they make is very noticeable for a few extra francs' outlay!

 

Anyhow, Deffo worth the effort, and the installation is easily swapped into your next 'Lingo!

[tronboy]

Thanks, I hadn't realised there was no tweeter under the dash panel.

 

Sorry for being a bit thick but what do you mean by door apertures & door cards? How do u bolt to the aperture?

 

On my lingo the speakers are screwed onto a speaker moulding.

 

Couple of other questions.

 

How do you connect the new speakers, have you used an adapter to fit the wiring loom to the new speaker or scotchloks?

 

How do you get the door panels off?

 

Any pictures of your installation would be appreciated.

 

Ta.

 

 

The Door Cards are the interior door panels, so called because they used to be made of fabric covered hardboard in years past! They are removable by taking off the trim panel on the interior door handle, removing the bolts underneath, then pulling the entire door card off the door. You'll need to watch out for the locking button at the top of the door panel getting caught so be careful

 

The existing speakers are screwed into the apertures on the door cards, so they'll need to be removed. As previously mentioned, the speaker grilles rotate and unclip to gain access to the screws. The speaker cables unclip from the speaker units. For neatness I bought a speaker connector kit enabling the existing wires to be clipped into that, then the connectors are slipped on to the tags on the new speaker drive units, so no hacking around of the original loom was necessary. Be sure to observe the correct polarity of the speakers when connecting new ones, and ensure they're the same on each speaker or else you'll reduce your stereo's bass response and imagery.

 

Bolt the new speakers with suitable nuts and bolts and shakeproof washers directly to the circular aperture in the door. You'll need to drill neat and tidy holes in the door to do this.

 

Good luck!

[Guest Lingos Rock]

The Door Cards are the interior door panels, so called because they used to be made of fabric covered hardboard in years past! They are removable by taking off the trim panel on the interior door handle, removing the bolts underneath, then pulling the entire door card off the door. You'll need to watch out for the locking button at the top of the door panel getting caught so be careful

 

The existing speakers are screwed into the apertures on the door cards, so they'll need to be removed. As previously mentioned, the speaker grilles rotate and unclip to gain access to the screws. The speaker cables unclip from the speaker units. For neatness I bought a speaker connector kit enabling the existing wires to be clipped into that, then the connectors are slipped on to the tags on the new speaker drive units, so no hacking around of the original loom was necessary. Be sure to observe the correct polarity of the speakers when connecting new ones, and ensure they're the same on each speaker or else you'll reduce your stereo's bass response and imagery.

 

Bolt the new speakers with suitable nuts and bolts and shakeproof washers directly to the circular aperture in the door. You'll need to drill neat and tidy holes in the door to do this.

 

Good luck!

 

Thanks, Already had the door speakers out, looking to see if some speakers on special at maplins might fit, no such luck, althought the boot speakers should be OK.

Also, just bought a Haynes manual... hoping it would explain how to get the various trims off.. but it just says... prise the "whatever" off, no description of where to actually prise. From experience prising in the wrong place is what causes the damage... & expense!! :P

 

For info I had already found these adapters, http://www.auto-connect.co.uk/OEM_Speaker_Adapter.html. Where did u get yours?

[oofmeister]

Next unclip the tweeter grilles in the top of the dash, unclip the wire connector block clipped to the grille and fit either a pair of Citroen supplied Harman/Kardon units for about £30 or buy an Alpine SXE-1750S kit which comprises a decent pair of bass/mid drivers for the doors and a pair of tweeter units which will fit at a squeeze, although not as neatly as the Harman/Kardons.

Thanks for the information; what do you mean by "a squeeze"; will the original grills fit back over the Alpine tweeters? Do you need to add a crossover anywhere? Seems quite appealling to get both sets of speakers for less than the price of the tweeters alone from Citroen...