C5 Manual Gearbox Instead Of Automatic

[dragan]

Hi,

I have a problem with gearbox in my Citroen C5 2.0 HDI automatic. I need to replace it so I'm wonder is it possible to mount a manual gearbox instead of automatic. I'm also interested to do it by myself, so I would be thankful if somebody can give me some manual how to do it!

Regards

[Stasi]

Hi Dragan,

 

I think you would be opening up a big can of whoopass trying this; even from the hardware point of view you would have problems; it's not a simple box out-box in procedure; you would need flywheel, gearbox, maybe a different starter motor driveshafts etc...., and the possible software incompatibilities to my mind make this idea a non-starter....

Sorry to be so negative but having done this type of thing on far less advanced vehicles than a C5, and with a complete donor vehicle to plunder, there are all sorts of things that need considering beyond the idea. I think you would perhaps be better trying to source a good secondhand autobox and fitting that.

 

Regards

 

Stasi

 

Hi,

I have a problem with gearbox in my Citroen C5 2.0 HDI automatic. I need to replace it so I'm wonder is it possible to mount a manual gearbox instead of automatic. I'm also interested to do it by myself, so I would be thankful if somebody can give me some manual how to do it!

Regards

[coastline taxis]

Hi,

I have a problem with gearbox in my Citroen C5 2.0 HDI automatic. I need to replace it so I'm wonder is it possible to mount a manual gearbox instead of automatic. I'm also interested to do it by myself, so I would be thankful if somebody can give me some manual how to do it!

Regards

what type of auto box is it and whats the fault on it. To swap over youl ned inner cv joints/flywheel/clutch/gear lever and cables/pedal box and pedal/master and slave cylinders/brake resorvoir and starter motor.

[dragan]

Hi Dragan,

 

I think you would be opening up a big can of whoopass trying this; even from the hardware point of view you would have problems; it's not a simple box out-box in procedure; you would need flywheel, gearbox, maybe a different starter motor driveshafts etc...., and the possible software incompatibilities to my mind make this idea a non-starter....

Sorry to be so negative but having done this type of thing on far less advanced vehicles than a C5, and with a complete donor vehicle to plunder, there are all sorts of things that need considering beyond the idea. I think you would perhaps be better trying to source a good secondhand autobox and fitting that.

 

Regards

 

Stasi

 

Yes, I know that it would be difficult. I was asking some people about that problem, and one of the answers was that maybe I could put a manual gear box from Peugeot 406. What do you think about that.?

Regards

[dragan]

what type of auto box is it and whats the fault on it. To swap over youl ned inner cv joints/flywheel/clutch/gear lever and cables/pedal box and pedal/master and slave cylinders/brake resorvoir and starter motor.

 

The clutches are dead. The car doesn't have enough power to go uphill even in manual mode. I've changed oil but it worked only two-three months and now it is dead. It needs replacement.

Regards

[coastline taxis]

The clutches are dead. The car doesn't have enough power to go uphill even in manual mode. I've changed oil but it worked only two-three months and now it is dead. It needs replacement.

Regards

GOT ONE JUST THE SAME AND WAS THINKING OF DOING THAT BUT CHANGED OUR MINDS AS THE DONOR CAR WAS IN BETTER CONDION THAN THE ONE WE WERE GOING TO FIX. THE BOXES ARE EASY TO GET OUT BUT IF I WERE YOU ID TAKE ENGINE AND BOX OUT AS IT WILL GIVE EASIER ACSESS FOR THE CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER AND THE PEDAL BOX ALSO THE ELECTRICS WONT BE A ISSUE AS THE AUTO BOX HAS ITS OWN ECU. THE ONLY PART OF THE JOB THAT WE WERNT LOOKING FORWARD TO WAS THE PEDAL BOX AND INSTALING THE CLUTCH HYDRAULICS THE REST IS STRAIGHT FORWARD. AND YES THE PUG 406 BOX WILL FIT ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TO SWAP THE SELECTORS OVER AS THE CIT CABLES ARE BIGGER THAN THE PUGS BALLS ON THE SELECTOR. AND YES I NO IM GOT THE CAPS LOCK ON BUT ME SON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING AT 14 ISNT HERE TO TURN IT OF HA HA

[dragan]

GOT ONE JUST THE SAME AND WAS THINKING OF DOING THAT BUT CHANGED OUR MINDS AS THE DONOR CAR WAS IN BETTER CONDION THAN THE ONE WE WERE GOING TO FIX. THE BOXES ARE EASY TO GET OUT BUT IF I WERE YOU ID TAKE ENGINE AND BOX OUT AS IT WILL GIVE EASIER ACSESS FOR THE CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER AND THE PEDAL BOX ALSO THE ELECTRICS WONT BE A ISSUE AS THE AUTO BOX HAS ITS OWN ECU. THE ONLY PART OF THE JOB THAT WE WERNT LOOKING FORWARD TO WAS THE PEDAL BOX AND INSTALING THE CLUTCH HYDRAULICS THE REST IS STRAIGHT FORWARD. AND YES THE PUG 406 BOX WILL FIT ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TO SWAP THE SELECTORS OVER AS THE CIT CABLES ARE BIGGER THAN THE PUGS BALLS ON THE SELECTOR. AND YES I NO IM GOT THE CAPS LOCK ON BUT ME SON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING AT 14 ISNT HERE TO TURN IT OF HA HA

 

Thank you for this answer which I found very helpful for me. I also want to thank Stasi for his answer. I must make a decision how to solve this problem and I will take into consideration everything I could.

Regards

[coastline taxis]

Thank you for this answer which I found very helpful for me. I also want to thank Stasi for his answer. I must make a decision how to solve this problem and I will take into consideration everything I could.

Regards

if you go ahead with the plan how much do you want for your old auto box

[dragan]

if you go ahead with the plan how much do you want for your old auto box

That'll be fine to sold you my old auto box, but unfortunately it'll be very difficult because I'm not from UK.

I have few more questions for you. If I choose to replace my auto box with that one for Peugeot 406 Manual box), I want to know what is the situation with the following:

1. Pedal box for Pug 406-does it fit?

2. What about the flywheel and motor starter-same question?

3. Gearbox handle-could I put it instead of handle for auto box? Does it work on a bar principle or it is something else?

Regards

[coastline taxis]

That'll be fine to sold you my old auto box, but unfortunately it'll be very difficult because I'm not from UK.

I have few more questions for you. If I choose to replace my auto box with that one for Peugeot 406 Manual box), I want to know what is the situation with the following:

1. Pedal box for Pug 406-does it fit?

2. What about the flywheel and motor starter-same question?

3. Gearbox handle-could I put it instead of handle for auto box? Does it work on a bar principle or it is something else?

Regards

ok out of curiosity what country you from and the answer to your questions is

1 dont know but would think that they wouldnt

2 yes they are the same

3 yes 4 bolts hold it in and new unit will come with the cables to attach to your box

you can use the pugs inner cv joints aswell

steve

[dragan]

ok out of curiosity what country you from and the answer to your questions is

1 dont know but would think that they wouldnt

2 yes they are the same

3 yes 4 bolts hold it in and new unit will come with the cables to attach to your box

you can use the pugs inner cv joints aswell

steve

 

Thanks for the answer, it will help. Btw I'm from Serbia, Belgrade.

Regards

[coastline taxis]

Thanks for the answer, it will help. Btw I'm from Serbia, Belgrade.

Regards

how hard is it for you to get spares out the or do you have a good dealership network

[dragan]

how hard is it for you to get spares out the or do you have a good dealership network

Well, if you have enough money, everything is easy. There is a good dealership network but it is very expensive so I'm trying on any other way to get what I need with some normal prices. For example, I can buy a new auto gear box for "only" 1500-2000 eur. I think that is to much for this car so I've decided to do something else and I think that I'm very close to get this problem to the end.

Regards

[coastline taxis]

Well, if you have enough money, everything is easy. There is a good dealership network but it is very expensive so I'm trying on any other way to get what I need with some normal prices. For example, I can buy a new auto gear box for "only" 1500-2000 eur. I think that is to much for this car so I've decided to do something else and I think that I'm very close to get this problem to the end.

Regards

Thats not a bad price for a auto box. And if you do get a fix for your box make sure you come back and tell us

cheers

steve