update: alright, well maybe I'm a idiot....well not maybe I know its for sure.... I got this idea, instead of trying to jump start the car from another car, how about swapping out batteries. BINGO, the ds fired right up. BUT, now I have revealed a hydraulic leak. one of the lines that run under the drivers side of the car. I have the access panels off and I have the line identified but I need to trace the line up through the front firewall so I can dissconect it and find a replacement line. good news, it runs, bad news, its got a new problem for me to track down! oh well..