northman

Funny. I never thought of ebay! However, I'm just looking for some figures from the brochure, and would be grateful if you could give me them. For the 1.9 diesel and the 2.0 HDi, I would like to know the official Citroen figures for: 0-62 mph combined mpg CO2 emissions Thanks

Thanks for that. Very useful - though pretty much what I expected - and probably pretty much what you expected too, I guess. I know exactly what you mean about the brilliant door pockets in the old Berlingo. Perfect for one's Volvic. I don't know if any other car comes close. Certainly not at the price. :D

Has anyone got a Berlingo brochure for 2003, 2004, or 2005? I'm looking for a facelift brochurce that includes the 1.9 and 2.0 diesel engines. I'd be particularly interested if anyone has a pdf one. Thanks

Have you looked at http://www.drivethedeal.co.uk/ yet? They are usually about as good as anyone.

Check http://www.drivethedeal.co.uk/ if you have not already done so.

Depressing. I hadn't realised it was that bad. So the choice is to hold on to what you've got or buy second hand. Basically they have deleted everything decent. It seems like strange marketing. A range of good cars at reasonable prices disappears, to be replaced by slow cars at reasonable prices, or good cars at unreasonable prices. This is the sort of marketing one would have expected in East Germany 30 years ago. Don't give the customer what they want. Give them what you think they should want.

I quite like the appearance of the new one. My Berlingo is 2002, before the facelift. I didn't like the facelift at all, and think the new one is a definite improvement. However, it is bigger, fatter, heavier, thirstier, slower, more expensive . . . so my choice would still be for the Berlingo First. By the way, here's another review: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstD...6-90-VT/232624/ Summary: "the van-like dimensions remain . . . but the smooth and willing 108bhp 1.6 HDi motor, and general air of refinement and dynamic sophistication make the Berlingo feel more like a family hatch."

And the vital statistics don't make good reading either. Old 1.6 110 petrol - 37.7 mpg ...... CO2 - 175 g/km ..... 0-60 - 11.0 secs New 1.6 110 petrol - 34.5 mpg ...... CO2 - 195 g/km .....0-60 - 13.2 secs Old 1.6 92 HDi - 53.3 mpg .... CO2 - 140 g/km .... 0-60 - 12.9 secs New 1.6 92 HDi - 49.6 mpg ... CO2 -150 g/km .... 0-60 - 14.0 secs

And another http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/ind...ion=performance summary ". . . an altogether more sophisticated car than its revered ancestor. . . . don’t think of it like the old Berlingo. Regard it as an alternative to an MPV or even to an SUV. "

Found my first one! http://www.businesscar.co.uk/story.asp?sto...p;sectioncode=2 summary: "The new Berlingo is another of those vehicles that does everything slightly better than its predecessor, but without making a great leap forward."

By the way - has anyone seen any reviews of the New Berlingo on the web, or in the press or in car mags?

Well, I'm glad to see the Berlingo First is still there on the Citroen UK website. But I'll also be excited to see the new vehicle. Must keep my eyes open for one. The price a little steep. I see the 110 bhp Hdi is listed at £14,499 - though I see it is discounted on the web to £12,205, whereas the cheapest 90 bhp Hdi is discounted to £9676. £2,500 is a lot for 20 bhp. And seeing as we Berlingo owners don't like to throw our money around, it will be interesting to see how many of the 110's they sell. I think I'll be hanging on to my 1.6 petrol for a few years yet.

Where did you see it? Are they in the dealers now? Well - I guess that's why Citroen are keeping the old one on the market. It will be interesting to see how sales of the old and the new compare - especially in France. Who knows - perhaps the old one will outsell the new?

Porky - I'm a little surprised to hear that you find 165/65 R 15 tyres hard to source. I would have thought that if you give your local garage / mechanic / dealer a couple of weeks notice, they would have no difficulty getting them for you. Alternatively, you could get them at http://www.mytyres.co.uk By the way, was your Berlingo originally fitted with 165/65 R 15 tyres? I ask, because my early 2002 Berlingo came with 175/70 R 14 - and I would have expected yours to be the same as mine. Personally, I think it is best to stick with the size of tyres that the car originally came with.

I once had a Picasso as courtesy car. It was OK. Best thing about it was the 1.6 Hdi 110 engine. I really liked it. Worst was the absence of rev counter. Overall, I preferred the feel of the Berlingo. Light foot? Well, I try. And I avoid towns and cities where possible.