UVG

missing everything and my local dealer will only sell the whole door card! there are a pair on ebay but he wants £30 plus £7 carriage each! I think that's a bit high!

Does anyone have a secret cache of the Trapezoid door pocket from the front doors, or know where I can get a pair at a sensible price? black or grey would be great. my new motor came with two holes where they should be and it spoils the look of the interior also after my XM storage space in the C5 is a bit limited so the extra cubby holes would be handy ^_^ will try and find an old fashioned style scrapyard but they are few and far between these days and I would expect they would only sell the whole door card :wacko: UVG

got to be honest I remember the ad but I couldn't have told you the name of the company :D well the injectors fixed and for less than £75 if anyone needs a diesel specialist in the Peterlee area let me know I would recommend them (not sure if i'm allowed to mention them on here) car running noticeably better haven't driven it that far yet so don't know if the misfire is cured yet but looks hopeful coastline can you point me in the direction of ECUsafe because i'm having trouble finding it. if its still free its doing a good job of hiding! I've got a netbook and a lead on its way I just need the software now :huh:

i'll keep looking qman if I find it i'll let you know. I've done as coastline suggested and put some soapy water around the injectors....its frothy man! cars going in tomorrow to get the injector sorted garage has agreed to cover first £200 of repairs so hopefully it wont come to any more than this. i'll let you all know what the out come is UVG

thanks qman I've downloaded it but its called ECUflash is this the same thing that coastline recommended? looks like an interesting piece of software but it says it covers Mitsubishi and Subaru im looking for any recommendations as far as fault finding, reading or programing software is concerned looks like my spanners are going to need an electronic friend

Coastline I should have thought of that its how I used to check for gas leaks (safer than a lighter) :blink: haven't had time yet but its defiantly hissing I got a response from the garage the next morning his 3month warranty covers repairs at his local mechanics to a total of £200 but he suggested that because I was so far away (320mile round trip) he would be happy to pay the first £200 to my local specialist. the local specialist have recommended getting the other 3 injectors re seated as well based on the idea that if ones gone the others wont be far behind seems reasonable but not sure if really necessary. your opinions please..... haven't had a repeat of the depollution fault so wondering if my run out at the weekend made a difference.

Rang the local dealer on a whim to see how much an owners manual would be was amazed only £15 that's cheaper than ebay for a new one so I ordered one :P

quick update before I creep of to bed I've taken the car into the local diesel specialist and it has what he calls a "Chuffing Injector" the second injector is leaking causing a black deposit around it and the manifold (its like pitch or tar black and shinny but not really sticky) specialist is quoting from £60 upwards depending on weather he can get the injector out and weather anything is damaged in the process could run to hundreds if things get tricky :unsure: :( my nice new motor is booked in next Wednesday but I have also emailed the garage where I bought it (160 miles away) to see if it would be covered by the 3 month warranty (not going to hold my breath) so if any one has a spare minute to offer a pray to the Citroen god it will be greatly appreciated!! I'll let you all know the out come next week P.S. anyone got a link for ECUsafe? have a feeling I'm going to want it in the future.

the code reader is a MaxScan Vag Autel that's all the info there is on it and I don't know if it does live data I've borrowed it from a neighbour so don't have the instructions (I'll try looking them up when I get in tonight neighbour is on nights so cannot ask him till the weekend) I've always been wary of messing with injectors but it does sound like its hissing from one of them but I would have thought it would have been a faster sound. there is a diesel service centre round the corner from my work that has a good reputation I might run in there and ask them to check it over. only prob been shortage of funds after buying the car in the first place :unsure:

Ok so its been an interesting weekend I've done a service. I've flushed the engine and replaced the oil (used correct quality oil) and oil filter, air and fuel filter. I've been on a 40 mile drive at 50mph to try and force a regeneration don't know if it worked. I've also checked the oil supply to the turbo and it appears to be getting about 2/3 more oil than the specs say it should be so hopefully the oil ways are not blocked with carbon and as long as I maintain things properly it will stay that way...well heres hoping but I still have the miss fire and the depollution fault still comes and goes. there is oil around the injectors (which the seller explained away as a spill during the service (could be true) one of the injectors appears to have a diesel leak but couldn't figure out where it was coming from and with the bonnet open the engine sounds like a fast steam engine a definite sort of hissing sound coming from the head. I don't know if this is normal as I've never had a common rail engine before. (anyone give me a clue on that) I've also managed to borrow a code reader and found the following codes already stored P0238, P1461, P1351, P0104, P0113 I cleared these before I took the car for a drive to try and regenerate during that drive the depollution fault reoccurred when I got back I read the codes again and got P0238, P1461, P1351 I cleared these and the next morning when I started the car the fault was gone during that drive the car didn't misfire. today I got the misfire again so I've read the codes again P1351, P1461, P1351, P1461 this is my first time using a code reader so I have looked up a list of codes online and they say things like: P0238 Turbo/Superboost sensor A circuit high input or P0113 IAT sensor 1 (circuit high input) but I have no idea how this relates to what needs looking at on the car. any and all advise gratefully received. Coastline recommended down loading ECUsafe but when I did my antivirus software went into overdrive can anyone offer a link as to where to download it safely and also what version is best does it read codes as well or just reprogram the ECU? if I can get the misfire cured I'll be very happy with the car. I can live with the depollution fault as it doesn't affect the way the car runs and if it becomes a real pain I'll DeFAP it once I've got all the gear together thanks for your advise UVG

Yes it starts first time every time no cranking at all I've bought good oil and filters this morning but due to weather and children's social lives (at least they have one) I haven't been able to change the filters tonight. I'll try and get them sorted over the weekend. I am now convinced the misfire and the depollution fault are related it misfired to night on the way home and the engine warning light went off and so has the depollution fault. I've got some engine flush so I'm going to do a flush and oil and filter change and then fill the tank (with shell diesel) then take it for a drive to try and get things to regenerate I'll post the results (good or bad) once I have any Coastline I am still interested on how to connect the car to the computer so I can see what's going on and how to do the DIY defap etc if you could guide me in the right direction for the info I need I would be grateful cheers UVG aka Kev

thought I'd found a set of symptoms that cause the misfire this morning I had to back off the power when I thought someone was going to pull out in front of me they didn't and I went straight back on the power but as I did the car misfired quite violently and then carried on running fine. when I thought about it there was a similar set of circumstances last night to so a bit further down the road I deliberately came of the power and went straight back on the car didn't misfire but the depollution fault came back!!! then this evening on my way home driving down the A19 no change in power and it misfires again but before it did it did feel like it was faltering just a bit. like it was struggling to give me the power I wanted and then after the misfire it was fine. as it the timing was slightly out and it needed the misfire to correct itself. my Haynes manual arrived today so I'm going to try and get all the bits together to do an oil and filter change at the weekend (weather permitting) and i'll have a good look for any split or damaged tubing and wiring any suggestions as to where to look and what to look for greatly received coastline when you say I'll need a few tools to trace it properly what kind of tools are we talking about? because the misfire is now a bigger worry than the depollution fault and I am wondering if the 2 are related Cheers UVG

I thought you must be local to me because I was sure id read some advice you had given someone about using TCC (which is where my car originally came from) I do usually use supermarket diesel because its a bit cheaper but to be honest I put £50 in on the motorway after I had bought it and I think it was BP and I haven't put any more in yet. I haven't noticed any lights when it happens but there is no warning and it happens so quick I don't have time to look. I've only had the car a week and it hasn't happened enough times yet for me to build up a set of symptoms I'm hoping over time I will be able to say "it happens after I change gear" or "when I accelerate" or "at around xxxx revs" which might help pin it down. as to defaping I've read a bit about remapping the ECU when you do this. Is this necessary or just preferable and if so is this something I can do as well? bit worried about changing the software on the car and not been able to change it back if there is an issue. thanks for the help its nice to know someone has the answers and has done this all before UVG

Thanks for the advice I've had a look on google and there are a couple of places locally that will do the FAP removal (cannot help wondering what the insurance companies will think of the modification) but not cheap once I get my Haynes manual I plan on doing an oil, filter and belt change. I need to check the history to see if the eolys been done. are 1.6 really that bad? because it seemed to fit the bill, was available at the right time and at the right price so I bought it. cleaned me out financial so the idea of selling it on to buy a 2.0 with the loss involved might be a non starter. so looks like I'm stuck with it. I was very happy with it when I first bought it so I'm a little (ok a lot) worried now after what I've read on here (has anybody got one they are happy with?) I'm in Hartlepool on the NE coast I've been messing with computers since the ZX81 so am reasonably confident with one and if I get stuck I have a good friend who is a computer whizz who will help me. Have read the comments about oil and turbos on here so was planning to do an engine flush and a good quality oil (any recommendations) the Depollution fault appears to have cleared its self (for the moment but I bet I haven't seen the last of it) the misfire is getting worse not more often just more violent. would definitely be interested in keeping the option of defaping the car myself open and if there is a way to communicate with the ECUs without having to lay out a fortune that's something else I have a feeling I will need keep the advice coming think I'm going to need it UVG

Hi All will some one please tell me I haven't just bought a pup!! I've just bought a 55 plate 1.6hdi C5 estate as a replacement for my beloved 2.5 VSX XM I've had it less than a week I bought it from a second hand car dealer that is over 150 miles away. it drives really nice but every now and again it misfires just for a second. This morning when I started it I got a slight squeal like a belt slipping (haven't had time to check on that yet.) Then on my way to work this morning whilst accelerating up hill I got a Depollution System Faulty warning and an engine light on the dash. cars done about 115000 miles and came with a full service history it still drives just the same but now having spent an evening reading through the forum I'm horrified at what I might have bought. I didn't realise that so much had changed in the car market over the years I've been driving the XM. My XM I put diesel, oil and water in it when it broke I used spanners and screwdrivers to fix it and once fixed I just drove it. Now I'm finding that my new car might have a "magic" oil hiding in the fuel tank and filters in the exhaust! who thought of that? I also find that to fix things now need a lap top and a clever connection lead that shouldn't be made in china because that may fry things. what the hell happened to suck - squeeze - bang - blow ? OK that feels better...rant over! serious question though I obviously have been left behind in the stone age my XM had a mechanical fuel pump and was relatively easy thing to maintain. now I need to learn a whole new way of doing things. The symptoms I described are my problem and I don't know how good or bad that might be my finances are tight so had planned to maintain the new C5 myself hadn't expected such a steep learning curve and certainly not so soon. so can anybody offer some advice what do I need to buy in the way of code readers? of would going for a lexica be the better bet and if so from where? any information greatly received many thanks UVG

Thanks Paul I'll bear that in mind :)

when you put it that way the ebay one does seem like a good idea thanks for the info I assume that a handbook for any series 1 will cover most options even if mine is a facelift version as I understand it the cars are virtually the same? seat belt warning does go off just wanted to make sure it wasn't a fault that needed fixing as I plan to repair any faults that I can

Thanks for the responses guys I've already read some of the stories on here about the 1.6 so yes I've already decided to do an oil flush and then regular and earlier oil changes. as to the rear seat belts I assume there are no sensors to say someone is sitting in them just to say weather the buckles are fastened? as for joining Citroen service I've already looked and as you say only covers the earliest version of the newest model I'll keep trying unless someone has one I can borrow and I'll scan it UVG

Hello Everyone I've just added a 55 plate C5 1.6hdi VTR Estate to my line of Citroens. I've had it for a couple of days now and I'm very happy with it so far I could really do with an owners handbook if anyone knows where I can download one seem to be able to find the newer model but not the facelift series 1. I've been running Citroens for years now, in fact I've only every had one car that wasn't and that was my first one after i passed my test. The list includes a CX Prestige, Two BX's, a ZX, a Xantia and my beloved XM which I have just had to retire (and will be Ebaying shortly :( ) the C5 looks like it might be a good replacement. would have preferred the 2.0 but times are hard and the 1.6 seemed the more economical choice (plus it was the only one available). I didn't know it had an openable rear window when I bought it. unfortunately it doesn't work but I've already found a detailed set of instructions on this forum on how to fix it so will have to have a go when I get a minute and thanks to whoever posted it (sorry didn't keep a copy of the name). One last thing before I sign off can anyone tell me if the dash will always say there are no rear seat belts fastened even if there is no one sitting in them? anyway that's enough from me for now. I'll be back with questions (and hopefully answers too) on a regular basis. Cheers and Happy Motoring UVG