wozza Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Well theres the "fun" way find an empty bit of road do 30ish and slam your foot on the brakes if you skid you dont have abs lol. Although im sure someone will be able to tell you the proper way without doing that lol. Quote
DickieG Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 The easy way of telling is whether there is an ABS light on the dash when you start the car. An 04 version would have only had ABS fitted in connection with a passengers airbag as part of a 'Safety Pack'. Quote
myke Posted May 24, 2006 Author Posted May 24, 2006 Thanks DickieG. That means my car must be 'Unsafe'!!!!!! ????? :D Quote
hertsnminds Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 You don't need ABS to simulate ABS. Instead of stamping hard on the brake (the ABS technique) just pump the brake pedal, OK an ABS computer can do this faster than a person but you will still get a simlar effect. IanBlack 55 VTR+ Quote
Terry1100 Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Which is fine of course for the disciplined (and trained driver). For the rest of us muppets having a serious "oh s**t" moment, ABS provides a more practical solution most of the time. Which is why its pretty much standard nowadays. Some years ago (11/11/79 - not a date I'm likely to forget :D ), and long before the widespread introduction of ABS, I had my only major accident when I hit a Scania 142 head on in a Peugeot 504. I can remember my brain telling my body that If I took my foot off the brake pedal, or pumped it, I might regain enough control to steer round the truck - my body had other ideas, over-rode the brain and kept my foot locked down hard on the brakes and consequently 1/2 tonne of Peugeot hit 38 tonnes of Scania (and this was before compulsory seat belts). I made the Northamptonshire Evening Argus (or some similar publication) as I was responsible for closing the A45 for an hour or so :D I'm not planning to do that again. Quote
Bob-T Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I found that my ABS worked a few weeks ago when some plank pulled out of a side road in front of me. I hit the brakes and horn simultaneously and he stopped allowing me to steer around his bonnet with the aid of the ABS. Hi Terry LTNS. Hope you are well. Quote
tronboy Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 The brakes in a non-ABS equippped 'Lingo are far more efficient in everyday use than in those with ABS. Poor braking is one of my few gripes with the car, and one that dragged the overall result down in the Auto Excess Driver Power survey. My early non-ABS 1.8i 3-door had brakes that would stop a train. On balance though, ABS is a useful thing to have around these parts, what with single-track country roads 'n all. Quote
Terry1100 Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 Whilst I respect your observations based on practical experience, I can't see how that can be. I am working on the assumption that there is no physical difference in the braking hardware and therefore, other than when a wheel is locking (and the ABS system releases and reapplies hydraulic presssure momentarily), the braking should be identical. Unless the extra pipework in the system as a whole reduces fluid pressure. I may of course be talking complete b*****ks - my ABS training is limited to early Teves systems on Granadas (late '80s ?) and the BMW R1100RS. B) It was a common question to the AA "my ABS warning light is on therefore my car is undrivable" - to which the response was - "No, you simply have no ABS, the operation of your brakes is not impaired in any way - this is why an ABS warning light is amber not red" Quote
tronboy Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 I'm basing it purely on practical experience. The non ABS brakes on my mate's W-reg Mk1 3-door diesel are better than those on my '05 1.6HDi too...... Quote
Oxymoron Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 Hi,The brakes on my '04 non-abs equipped Blingo have recently become quite "spongy"...Probably because I didn't have the fluid changed, at extra cost!... as recommended at the last service!Shall have to get the system bled and renewed soon!Cheerz. :P Quote
DickieG Posted June 1, 2006 Posted June 1, 2006 Hi,The brakes on my '04 non-abs equipped Blingo have recently become quite "spongy"...Probably because I didn't have the fluid changed, at extra cost!... as recommended at the last service!Shall have to get the system bled and renewed soon!Cheerz. :P The reason for that may well be that the rear drums are out of adjustment. How many clicks does it take to engage the handbrake? Quote
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