Jammee Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Hi guys go easy on me as I'm a new member :).I have recently bought a 2006 c4 vts which I am happy with but it has an issue with clutch judder, it only happens when I'm pulling away in first gear, and just had a new clutch fitted a week before I bought it ( I have the receipts).I'm thinking could it be the flywheel or am I barking up the wrong tree.any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.jamie. Quote
paul.h Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Welcome to the forum. Which engine do you have - it may have a dual mass flywheel which could be worn out, but it should have been checked when the clutch was removed (unless the previous owner did not want to pay). Other possibilities could include engine mountings, oil on the flywheel, clutch master/slave cylinder problems (check for leaks or may need to bleed), bad wear of the flywheel surface, worn bushes in the flywheel for the gear box shaft, a cheap clutch kit. Quote
Jammee Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Hi Thanks .sorry I should of said, it's the 2.0. I thought I might open up a can of worms with this question. I spoke to the garage and I asked if the car was ok when the test drove and they said fine.the car hasn't been used a lot since being fitted with the new clutch so I suppose it's a case of trial and error on the things you have listed. Quote
Jammee Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Sorry it also happens in reverse aswell Quote
paul.h Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Is it petrol or diesel and how many miles ago was the clutch fitted ? The engine mountings (check particularly the one at the back) can be checked by looking at them or possibly getting somebody to rev the engine and see if it rocks forward/backward. The clutch cylinders can also be looked at for fluid leaks - the master cylinder in the driver's footwell and the slave cylinder at the front of the gearbox. The other things need the gearbox removing and the clutch removing to check it - if the clutch guarantee was passed to you as the new owner, then the garage should be responsible for any work. Do you know what make of clutch was fitted and did the garage say if there was anything wrong with the flywheel or what they found wrong with the old clutch and why was it changed ? Quote
Jammee Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 It is a petrol 180 bhp. Clutch was fitted around 200 miles ago.I bought from a guy that bought from a garage.he just didn't like the car. He had cars all over his garden. More money than sense.spoke to the garage sense plate was worn it had fitted.supply and fit clutch kit.crank sensor.Clutch nose cone?Slave cylinder.1.5lts 75/90 gear oil. Quote
Jammee Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 I should say the judder isn't terrible I just like to get to the bottom of issues.an ocd some may call it.:) Quote
paul.h Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 An internet search suggests that whilst the judder is not normal on a new clutch, there is a chance the clutch may bed in and the judder may go. So other than checking the engine mountings, it may be best to do nothing for a few weeks. When I have replaced clutches on our cars they have not juddered straight away apart from one which then also needed a new spigot bearing on the flywheel. Your car does not have a dual mass flywheel so unless there was damage or bad wear to the old one from the old pressure plate wearing out, then the flywheel should not be the cause of the judder. I had a Maxi that had a worn flywheel and I could clean up its friction surface but the judder kept coming back. I do not know what is meant by the clutch nose cone and the parts diagrams do not indicate anything. You can see these as a free service if you register on the service.citroen site as another professional and a member of the Citroen Owners Club. Use your VIN (VIS) at the top left to see your car. http://service.citroen.com/do/changerParametres If you do your own maintenance, Haynes do a manual for the C4 but your engine is not covered. For this you can get the Citroen Service Box from such as ebay as 3 dvds to put on your pc. Quote
Jammee Posted December 5, 2014 Author Posted December 5, 2014 That's great.many thanks for your help,much appreciated. Quote
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