Few Problems, After Advice.

[JH1865]

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum and new to owning a Citroen!

 

After a bit of advice. My car is a 2006 plate 1.6 HDI C5.

 

Problems:

 

DPF, showing as risk of blockage, mate wants to replace it and has quoted me £165 - sound about right? Also with that was a loose fuel injector with carbon build up, he's saying £15 to sort that.

 

Now, the main problem - the turbo. The car is showing no effects of any problems, but mate says it's leaking oil and wants to refurbish it costing £100+.

 

Now, what I want advice on is that pay day isn't until the end of the month and obviously Xmas is round the corner. Would I be ok still driving it until then? It's the turbo that's my main worry, the car does only motorway driving and does 150 miles per day 5 days a week.

 

Any advice (suspecting it's more reassurance I need) will be greatly appreciated.

 

Justin.

Edited December 14, 2015 by JH1865

[paul.h]

Welcome to the forum.

 

How many miles has the car done ?

 

Turbo failure on the 1.6 hdi is common and if it breaks up will write off the engine. When the turbo is replaced other things also need doing and then there are still no guarantees the new one will last. The oil feed pipe should be renewed and a filter in the oil feed inlet banjo should be removed. The sump should be cleaned out. There may be an excess of oil in the intercooler so this may need cleaning. There may be other things also that need doing. If you put off sorting the turbo, if there are any signs it has failed, stop the engine and do not run it again until the turbo has been replaced to help save the engine. I had one go on a petrol Saab and it had been giving smoke on starting, then showed some smoke on accelerating but when it went, a bit earlier it became noisy and then it surrounded the car with smoke.

 

The dpf could be cleaned as a first step by water jetting to remove the ash and then it may be ok. It seems odd to be blocking if you are doing motorway trips all the time. Has the eoyls fluid run out or is it not being dosed. Check if the fuel filler cap still has magnets in it. Are there any fault codes ?

 

If the fuel injector is loose and can be removed, then it is a case of replacing the seal on the end of it after cleaning out the carbon build up. If this job is left then the carbon leaking out will harden and make it very difficult to remove the injector but specialist companies can be found but may charge a few hundred pounds to remove it. If it is proving hard to remove, do not attempt it since the injector may get damaged and also need replacing and these are expensive. So this job should be done asap.

[ESL57]

If you are not going to get all of that work done till after new year, you could change the oil meantime.

    It will help in cleaning things out in that gungy engine, while you are racking up miles.

[JH1865]

Welcome to the forum.

 

How many miles has the car done ?

 

Turbo failure on the 1.6 hdi is common and if it breaks up will write off the engine. When the turbo is replaced other things also need doing and then there are still no guarantees the new one will last. The oil feed pipe should be renewed and a filter in the oil feed inlet banjo should be removed. The sump should be cleaned out. There may be an excess of oil in the intercooler so this may need cleaning. There may be other things also that need doing. If you put off sorting the turbo, if there are any signs it has failed, stop the engine and do not run it again until the turbo has been replaced to help save the engine. I had one go on a petrol Saab and it had been giving smoke on starting, then showed some smoke on accelerating but when it went, a bit earlier it became noisy and then it surrounded the car with smoke.

 

The dpf could be cleaned as a first step by water jetting to remove the ash and then it may be ok. It seems odd to be blocking if you are doing motorway trips all the time. Has the eoyls fluid run out or is it not being dosed. Check if the fuel filler cap still has magnets in it. Are there any fault codes ?

 

If the fuel injector is loose and can be removed, then it is a case of replacing the seal on the end of it after cleaning out the carbon build up. If this job is left then the carbon leaking out will harden and make it very difficult to remove the injector but specialist companies can be found but may charge a few hundred pounds to remove it. If it is proving hard to remove, do not attempt it since the injector may get damaged and also need replacing and these are expensive. So this job should be done asap.

Thank you for your quick response, much appreciated.

 

The car has done just under 92k.

 

Re: The turbo - The car runs perfect and their are no other signs of anything else wrong (from a driving perspective). Just that my mate noticed the oil leak and advised me to get it refurbed with a kit (seals etc.) before it goes. Also, due to the motorway driving and cruise control the car never goes above 3,000rpm, will this have any effect, positive or negative?

 

Re: The DPF - I've only just bought the car, so it's only just started doing the motorway miles and the bloke that had it before me had only really used it for driving around the village. I bought it at a price that recognised this potential problem to be fair, so I'm already fine with spending a little to bring it back up to shape.

 

Re: Fuel Injector - My mate didn't think that would be a problem to do, although to the untrained eye (mine) it did look like a lot and he said it would keep working loose due to carbon build up underneath. Certainly not a job (nor is any to be honest) I will be attempting.

[paul.h]

The dpf may clear up so you could leave it for now but I would not put off fixing the injector leak. Where is the turbo leaking oil from ?

[JH1865]

The dpf may clear up so you could leave it for now but I would not put off fixing the injector leak. Where is the turbo leaking oil from ?

I'm honestly not sure where it's leaking from. Only thing I'd say is it's from the right hand side.

[JH1865]

The dpf may clear up so you could leave it for now but I would not put off fixing the injector leak. Where is the turbo leaking oil from ?

also, to clarify, the injector isn't leaking as it had come loose and after he tightened it it's been fine. But he still said he wants it changing to be fair.

[paul.h]

citrophile has rebuilt 2 turbos using cartridges but I do not know where the parts were from http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/21140-possible-turbo-failure/

http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/20684-turbo-renewal/

 

 

If you do go for a new dpf, keep the old one and then when it is cleaned you will have a spare or can sell it.