Al4 Gearbox-Atf Suggestion

[nagy592]

Hi All just checking  if anyone used Total Fluidmatic MV LV recently as all discussion about this topic is about 5 years old. I going to replace my gearbox as the original had some fundamental problem which caused a sudden death of the box (large amount of metal filing on the magnets in the hydraulic bloc cover). I found a same gearbox second hand with less mileage than my one (140k ish...) and I want to change oil in it before I put it back. I asked the dealership for ATF, they gave me a price which was ridiculous (also the information about that oil was simply "genuine", no brand industry standard etc). So I called the local Total distributor who suggested to use the Fluidmatic MV LV as that is the one for my 2003 C5. 

Any comment would be helpful 

TOT_FLUIDMATIC-MV-LV-0913.pdf

[paul.h]

The Citroen part number for the oil may be CITROEN RP reference : 9736 22. A search against this came up with Ravenol http://www.ravenol.co.uk/ravenol_products_AUTOMOTIVE_automatic_Transmission_oils.html

http://www.ravenol-direct.uk/ravenol-atf-54hp-fluid.html

[nagy592]

Thanks for that Paul, I went to check the numbers and a very slight difference (in every component including color) so I'm convinced the suggested (Total) oil wouldn't be the right one. Finally I found the local distributor for Mobil ATF LT 71141, but they only selling in 20 L container. Bad luck.... but still cheaper than the 6 liters from the dealership... and presumably this is the right one.

[nagy592]

So. Secondhand gearbox in. I drove for a quick and gentle test, smooth shift up, down like a dream. As soon the oil temperature climbed I drained and surprisingly only 2.4 liter came out. Hmmm what should I do. Check the oil refill procedure again and then I refilled with 3.5 liters. heated up check level and drain about 800 ml. Car drives like dream... until heavy traffic. I stopped by a red light than a short intense grubbing and no forward drive until 3000rpm then sudden start. Next time I tried to start in manual position and shift up to second gear, that was slightly better but still far from good. Quick oil change (burned smell) refill 3.5 liters worm up, drained about the same amount as earlier. smooth drive (Lexia on) until gearbox oil temperature increased over 90 degC then same symptoms as earlier. Oil change again refill 3.0 liters worm up and this time I stopped the engine for check the level. Approximately 500 ml drained and the car become perfect. Two days on now and did not missed the beat smooth shift up and down, manual shift is perfect up and down, kickdown fine shifting speed is slightly lower that the first time with the original oil. Is anyone have any comment on this? It seems I filled 2.5 liters to the box when it works fine. Is it possibly right?

[spiff]

So. Secondhand gearbox in. I drove for a quick and gentle test, smooth shift up, down like a dream. As soon the oil temperature climbed I drained and surprisingly only 2.4 liter came out. Hmmm what should I do. Check the oil refill procedure again and then I refilled with 3.5 liters. heated up check level and drain about 800 ml. Car drives like dream... until heavy traffic. I stopped by a red light than a short intense grubbing and no forward drive until 3000rpm then sudden start. Next time I tried to start in manual position and shift up to second gear, that was slightly better but still far from good. Quick oil change (burned smell) refill 3.5 liters worm up, drained about the same amount as earlier. smooth drive (Lexia on) until gearbox oil temperature increased over 90 degC then same symptoms as earlier. Oil change again refill 3.0 liters worm up and this time I stopped the engine for check the level. Approximately 500 ml drained and the car become perfect. Two days on now and did not missed the beat smooth shift up and down, manual shift is perfect up and down, kickdown fine shifting speed is slightly lower that the first time with the original oil. Is anyone have any comment on this? It seems I filled 2.5 liters to the box when it works fine. Is it possibly right?

Hallo I am no expert with the C5 as I have only just aquired one, it came with a gearbox problem so I have been reading up on the faults and replacing the oil.

 

From what I read about 2liters drans out at a time, so if you replaced this with 3 liters it was over filled.

 

Later on if I understand what you did correctly you drained 500ml so reduced the total amount of oil.

 

I have read that over filling caused problems.

 

Also that the max over fill is 500ml I think so it is within spec now, but ask others to be sure.

 

My C5 is a 2003 auto petrol with leather seats, cost £200 : )

 

God Bless Spiff