Door Change

[bidderman1969]

hi all, I'm changing the door, will all the window mechanism come out with the quarter light window all in one?

 

http://i.imgur.com/iTBmCme.jpg

[paul.h]

You have probably already done this by now but I think the glass is first removed and then the winder mechanism. This is part of the procedure to dismantle a door:

Raise the door glass a third of the way up to give access to the screw ( 18).

Remove :

• The (18) bolt (This is at the edge of the rear winder mehanism)
• The bolts (19) (these 4 are the front edge of the winder mechanism)

Push the fixed glass rail towards the front of the door, in order to free the front part of the window.

 

 

Remove :

• The glass (20)
• The caps and the bolts (21) (these 2 are at the rear of the door)
• The fixed glass (22) (this is the quarter light glass)

Disconnect the connector at " d ".

Remove the electric window mechanism ( 23).

[bidderman1969]

thanks for that, I'm guessing theres a diagram that accompanies this guide bud?

 

theres no riveting or drilling out of rivets are there?

[paul.h]

You can get the Citroen service box workshop procedures on dvd through ebay to put on your computer.  Whilst these can be copied/pasted, the diagrams can not and need the dvd to see them. There are also sites that you can download from but it takes a long time due to the file size. http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/23950-c8-workshop-manual/ Also looks as if the download can be obtained on dvd http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-Citroen-Workshop-Service-and-Repair-Manual-All-models-and-engine-variations/302360626978?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140221143405%26meid%3Da1a3b007d15947458f525d1e45347b0b%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D122626509014&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

 

The parts diagrams are also useful and can be seen free if you register on the service.citroen site as an other professional non emergency services and as a member of the Citroen Owners Club. Once on the site use your VIN (VIS) top left to find your car. http://service.citroen.com/do/changerParametres You should be able to tell from the diagrams if there are any rivets but I would think you will see any with the door card removed.

[bidderman1969]

cheers bud, much appreciated

[bidderman1969]

absolutely at the end of my f*&^%$g tether with this thing now, its about 2 days away from being torched

 

finally got the all the stuff of the old door, got door off, got the replacement one on, got all the stuff back into it, now the door latch is f'ing about, sometimes it'll shut,  sometimes it won't, when it does shut, it won't lock or alarm now, f'ing great, only changing the door because of a couple of dents on the top of it, other than that it was fine, shut and locked with no problems, sick to death of it now

[paul.h]

Sounds as if the door lock or striker plate on which it locks need adjusting, possibly the plate needs moving out towards the outside of the car slightly. You can test the lock by closing it around a screwdriver. The door position open or closed switch is built in to the lock so its latch needs to fully close for it to lock and for the alarm to work.

[bidderman1969]

yeah, we tried adjusting the strike plate, but it doesn't adjust, using the screwdriver method to test the latch itself, and the latch seems to not work at all for a while, then it does for a while, could there be something wrong with how we put the outside handle back in?  as in, when we got the outside handle out, you had to put a screwdriver in and push back the white lever to release the handle?  now wondering if we had to re-tension the spring tab or something?

[paul.h]

I have not done this work before so am unable to help. You could try a message to coastline taxis who has a lot of experience with Citroens and may have come across this before.

[bidderman1969]

on the inside, on the centre dash, it comes up as "front left door open", even though its closed, not sure if that helps, it never before we changed doors

[paul.h]

The lock can not be fully closed or there is a wiring problem or possibly the lock is now faulty. Does it do this when you close the lock around a screwdriver ? If a broken wire the section between the door and pillar is worth checking first.

[bidderman1969]

additional note, door doesn't lock manually either