Bassrock Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Hi All, Odd bod of a fault, as follows:- So, I have a 2010, 2.0Hdi X7 Estate, which has the BECB module (BOSCH 9664448980) attached to the battery negative terminal. Every so often (mostly in the morning after 5 minutes of driving (every 3 or 4 days or so) I get the battery charge warning along with the dong, dong, dong gong, it then disappears and isn't seen for another 3-4 days. I have a DMM attached at point of failure which tells me alternator is kicking out around 14.2V This started last year (would happen once every so often e.g. every 3 - 6 weeks, but now frequency has increased) and since then, alternator, battery, and BECB have been changed, intermittent fault remains. The BECB was changed by a garage as I gave up trying to fault find (at that time I had no decent diagnostic device). They said the BECB was reporting incorrectly to the BSI, so £200 later fault still the same. So happens, I now have access to a Foxwell NT644, it tells me the battery voltage is 12.2V (reported BECB ECU) but when measured at the battery is 14.2V, so I have a 2V error. But the BSI reports voltage as 14.2V and a secure battery voltage of 12.2V, Now, where does this 12.2V "secure battery voltage" come from ?????? So any ideas ??????????????, think I'm homing in the right direction though ! Any help much appreciated. Quote
Bassrock Posted April 7, 2018 Author Posted April 7, 2018 Ok, All, sorted :D :D On the battery negative terminal sits the BECB module (battery monitor (this is the PRIMARY source for the "secured battery voltage"). On the positive terminal sits a tag with cable assembly bolted to the +Ve supply of the battery and ultimately to the BECB. Disconnect +Ve tag on +ve post, BSI then takes its "secured battery voltage" (compares it with a battery voltage from elsewhere) from ABS/EBS or elsewhere if it cannot see that derived from the BECB. Guess what "secured voltage matches" battery voltage and haven't had a fault intimated for 4 days. All I need to do now is find the root cause fault in the power supply harness. Basically, because the BECB was receiving the wrong/intermittent supply voltage it was telling the BSI incorrect voltage values and the BSI re-acted accordingly, however the BSI voltage was at battery voltage e.g 14.2 volts when charging butwas being comped with the incorrectly generated voltage from the BECB.. Happy days :D , Oh no whats that noise from the electric steering pump, quick trip to supply guys for some steering fluid and problem solved phew, another near miss..... Quote
paul.h Posted April 8, 2018 Posted April 8, 2018 Our C4 started to give poor acceleration whilst still under warranty so the Citroen dealer did a diagnostic which found a U code pointing to a fault in the fuse unit fastened to the battery. After fitting a new one it was then ok. Whether that gave a low voltage I do not know since I did not have a diagnostic tool. To drop 2 volts could be a poor connection, a wiring fault or component but possibly not within the bit you already had replaced. Quote
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