td gav Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 hi guys i bought this the other day http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250312442765i paid an extra £90 for 7 mths tax but the clutch was slipping badly so i got a brand new clutch kit from http://www.eurocarparts.com/images/ecplogo_3d.gif TRANSMECH n/a 641545051 CLUTCH KIT ZX TD/XAN 1.9TD 306TD ZX TD/XAN 1.9TD 306TD £48.50 but the thrust bearing is on the pressure plate and i dont think its ment to be till the box is fitted as i cant see how the fork goes in Quote
techbod Posted November 2, 2008 Posted November 2, 2008 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGOET-205-306-405-...1713.m153.l1262 http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...l%3Den%26sa%3DN 2 different types by the look of those all the ones Ive done on the older cars the thrust bearing is separate from the plate mind you its a long time since I did one :rolleyes: Quote
Johndouglas Posted November 2, 2008 Posted November 2, 2008 There are two types of release mechanisms used on these cars. One has a push type where an independent clutch bearing is fitted around the input shaft and is pushed into the pressure plate. The other sort is a pull mechanism where the release bearing is part of the pressure plate. This sort is usually fitted on turbo diesels. Quote
td gav Posted November 2, 2008 Author Posted November 2, 2008 mine is a td but i dont know how the clutch release arm fits to the clutch bearing its the same clutch that came off the car just a new one so all id like to know is how to refit the box Quote
techbod Posted November 2, 2008 Posted November 2, 2008 13/06/080290 01 3120 30 CLUTCH WTHT RET MECH PLATE BEARING BUFFE TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE301 2004 J3 01 CLUTCH MECHANIM215 DT 5250- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 02 2055 S4RP 2055 Z7 0101 CLUTCH PLATEWITHOUT ASBESTOS - A005- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 04 2115 27 01 FORK LEVER- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 05 2172 09 01 PIN7-48 06 2175 21 01 FORK BEARINGSUPBA - WHITE- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 07 2175 20 01 FORK BEARINGINFBA - WHITE- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 08 2050 99RP 2050 Y3 0101 CLUTCH KITWITHOUT ASBESTOS - A005- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 2051 92 01 EXCHCLUTCH KIT- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 E 246 792 01 CLUTCH KIT- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 AND AGE > 5 70 6913 98 06 SCREWDIAM 7X100-22 http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr53/techbod/k3120300.jpg really is worth joining that site you know Quote
td gav Posted November 2, 2008 Author Posted November 2, 2008 13/06/080290 01 3120 30 CLUTCH WTHT RET MECH PLATE BEARING BUFFE TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE301 2004 J3 01 CLUTCH MECHANIM215 DT 5250- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 02 2055 S4RP 2055 Z7 0101 CLUTCH PLATEWITHOUT ASBESTOS - A005- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 04 2115 27 01 FORK LEVER- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 05 2172 09 01 PIN7-48 06 2175 21 01 FORK BEARINGSUPBA - WHITE- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 07 2175 20 01 FORK BEARINGINFBA - WHITE- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 08 2050 99RP 2050 Y3 0101 CLUTCH KITWITHOUT ASBESTOS - A005- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 2051 92 01 EXCHCLUTCH KIT- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 E 246 792 01 CLUTCH KIT- TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE AND BVM BE3 AND AGE > 5 70 6913 98 06 SCREWDIAM 7X100-22 http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr53/techbod/k3120300.jpg really is worth joining that site you know yes thats like mine but would be greatful if you could tell me how the arm fits behind the bearing when the box is on Quote
techbod Posted November 2, 2008 Posted November 2, 2008 you would slot the tranny on and rotate the road wheel on the car to line it up then the tranny should just click in place, cant see any other way but when its in you will feel the result through the wheel because it will turn the gears but you can line it up basically before you insert the input shaft it doesn't fit behind it as it slots in if you look at the image http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr53/techbod/k3120300-1.jpg Quote
DocBrown Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 hi guys i bought this the other day http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250312442765i paid an extra £90 for 7 mths tax but the clutch was slipping badly so i got a brand new clutch kit from http://www.eurocarparts.com/images/ecplogo_3d.gif TRANSMECH n/a 641545051 CLUTCH KIT ZX TD/XAN 1.9TD 306TD ZX TD/XAN 1.9TD 306TD £48.50 but the thrust bearing is on the pressure plate and i dont think its ment to be till the box is fitted as i cant see how the fork goes in Hi,welcome to the world of the pull type clutch. On this type of clutch, the release bearing is fixed to the clutch pressure plate. The forks on the gearbox slot behind the release bearing at an angle just as the gearbox is positioned and bolted up to engine. To remove gearbox, first buy a Haynes manual if you haven't already got one - even if you have changed clutches on other cars, trust me, the Xantia is a lot more involved. You have to strip off the battery tray and a ton of other stuff just to see the gearbox. The most important tip is to spray release agent such as Plusgas on the small securing pin which holds the clutch cable release lever to the clutch lever shaft. Please note that if you can't shift this pin, you can't move the lever to the correct angle to enable the release bearing forks to slide out. It's this metal pin that has completely seized solid on my gearbox even after applying heat, plumbers freeze, hot oil, Plusgas etc. I have had to delay removing gearbox because of this securing pin. Just make sure your releases otherwise it means destructive methods such as grinding away the clutch cable lever and hoping there's enough movement to get the right angle to disengage release bearing. The above problems is the main reason so many Xantia's end up being sold off cheap on online auctions or simply being scrapped. I'm going to remove the entire engine and 'box as I've also got a new turbo to fit plus several awkward oil leaks to get to. It also means I can get various stud extractors or even weld a bolt to the end of the stuck pin to try and shift it. Good luck Quote
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