Martin_1973_uk

If you hear the Sony System we have in our Mondeo's you would have to admit the C1 is terrible but then for the money it does its job. The unit itself is very good, just let down by cheap speakers. I think I would have tp spend near the 10K mark before I would find a better car than the C1!!!!!!

People often say to me "Why buy a brand new C1 when you could buy something decent secondhand for the same price". Well I can answer this soon because I bought my C1 in June this year, a petrol Cool edition for £6,500 where as my partner bought a Vauxhall Corsa SXi, three years old for £5,000. The Corsa was from a main dealer and came with a years warrenty. Both cars are cheap to run to make the test fairer. Over the next year I'll be able to compare which was the better choice. So far the Corsa drives smoother, being four cylinder. The spec is also a lot better on the Corsa with no reported problems so far. The C1 does feel newer though. For me I prefer the C1 as its newer although I'll post her response as well in time as she prefers the Corsa but admits the C1 is surprisingly nice to drive.

It sounds too complicated for me. Does anyone know anyone in the Essex area that would fit this stuff for a good price? I would have bought the Rythm but it was £1,000 more as I wouldn't have got the deals I got on my Cool. Will go for the glovebox lid though......

How do you add Central Looking and Electric Windows? Is the Glovebox lid easy to fit? I hate the gear knob in mine, anyone know a good model that goes all the way down to the leather trim on the gearstick? I totally agree with your views on the C1 except I've had no leaks as of yet.

Totally agree, if you dont tailgate you wont get the stone chips in the first place. Although its hard to do if you use the M25 as their is no space I guess........ In four months on my journey I haven't had one yet. Managed 422 miles on £29.00 at 94.9p a mile. Mostly motorway/country lanes with little traffic and a light right foot.

Mine has shown the first signs of the seat looking like the cat has been at it. I think if you catch it then it rips out the threads so not good. Is this covered under warrenty or wear and tear?

I'm not convinced that the car could even take a scrape along the side without caving in. What polish do you use as it looks like its a Metalic Red finish? How are you finding the car? Mine's been great, nothing has gone wrong and its done over 3K miles. The economy and performance really improve after the first 1K.......

Agree, I got my Air Con for £250 as well so a much better bargain. I did have a sunroof done like that before in an old banger and they are good and don't leak. Just these days no one seems to want Sunroofs anymore. Still liking the colour of the car though as it looks like a Metalic kinda Red to me. What polish do you use?

To be honest I think it looks better without them although this would leave the door exposed. I would imagine they are very weak thin doors so the slightest knock and they'll cave in anyway with or without door protectors. Interesting colour, was that an option or a special edition as it doesn't look like the plain red ones I see?

I think thats the reason many people have bought the C1, its Jap yet a lot cheaper than a Toyota. I went for the Cool version, a Vibe but with Air Con for £250 more. I don't find the engine to noisy, the exhaust even has a sporty sound to it. I find its the Tyres that are at fault. They have fitted the car with friction reduction tyres to get better economy but they always suffer more noise. I'll change them over to Goodyears once its due and report if this cures the problem.

Hi Colin, I have the basic model as well and the seats are fine. I would take it back and get it checked out.

You guys should be getting over 400 Miles to a tank unless your a heavy footed driver or sit in traffic all day. JW191, I think you should analise your driving or take the car back as doing those journey's you should be getting more than that. Do you do more than the 70MPH though as little cars suffer badly if you do. You'll be better off getting a bigger engined car. Mine is £27 a Tank at 92p a Litre getting 410 miles.......

The reason a lot of car companies are in trouble is due to the fact their are to many of them and until some go it wont change. Some companies like Toyota are doing well still as they have stayed ahead of the game. The people that buy the Prius are older gentlemen that expect a different thing in their cars. Not speed and handling but comfort and hassle free motoring and that's what Toyota provide, hence they give it a good score. The Fords and Citroen suffer through bad build quality and not providing what the customer, who the car is aimed up, what they want. Old people must find the Prius looks good but then the looks of the C4 are not good. In a few years when you have another car you'll wonder what you ever saw in it, trust me on that one. The worst is the C3 for me, it looks as though it was designed in 3 mins flat. Take the C1, Citroen have one job on the car thats not done by Toyota and that's to fit the lights. The only reported problem so far on these cars is water leaking in through the rear lights. They have one job to do and they can't get that right. Imagine what the car would have been like if Citroen was in charge of building the whole car, get my point. It can be the best car in the world and go well and handle like a dream but if it keeps going wrong then you'll grow to hate it. If Toyota can do it then why can't the others who have been in the game a long time now.

JD Power Survey is from people who own the cars, thats the best thing about it. Everyone who owns a car two years old can say what is good or bad against their car. The 307 gets marked down a lot for reliability. Performance is not just about power, handling and enjoyment come a lot in to it as well. The survey is based on expectations. So owners who mark the car down obviously expected more. Hence the Jap cars doing well as they just don't go wrong, well the ones I have had have been bullet proof. You can't argue with the public. We'll see what the C1 gets next year as its the first time it will be included. I love the car for the price but some may not agree. To be honest their are to many car makers in the world and some have to go. I'm surprised Citroen are still in the running. Fiat are another who'll probably get the bullet as the world can't handle that many makers. Watch this space.......

You may think you haven't lost a lot. I bought a Nissan Almera, very cheap and fully loaded. Problem is they say its worth so much but its a real struggle to find anyone to buy a non main stream car. In France you wouldn't have a problem but Citroens over here are seen as upside down prams that fall apart. Focus is a joy to drive and it looks the part. Not wacky just sensible styling like the Astra. I dont like the new shape Astra or Megane either. The 307 looks by far the best but then Pugs make some of the best looking cars. Golf would not fall apart, hold its value and if you drove one, you'll be very impressed. I'd love a Polo but they hold their value too much. Look at the JD Power Survey for a fair idea of the ranking of cars. See where the C4 come in that, fair?

I agree a Supercharger and Turbo work on the same idea but a Supercharger is placed where the air enters the engine and the turbo is at the end of the cycle so totally different principals. Turbo's are more popular as the power is more usuable although Mercs have made some advancement with Superchargers in the past. Agree they might say the C4 looks more comfortable but when you compare the cost and what you could get for the C4 money then it turns around. Surely a Focus, Astra, 307, Megane, Golf are all far better looking cars and would hold their value better? I think its just that rear window, it looks like a strange concept just for the sake of it. Glad yoiur happy with it though and its good not everyone drives the same car.......

Surely thats how a supercharger works by pushing mor eair in to the engine mix so some gains will be noticable. The down sides are the extra fuel consumption and the reliability suffering. I wouldn't hammer these three cylinder engines to much. I owned a Dihatsu Charade 3 cylinder engine which is what the C1 is based on and while it was ultra reliable they wouldn't take the punishment of a meaty four cylinder car. Cars can feel faster even if they are not. I once had an MR2 and where the clutch had worn and it would be really noisy yet produce less of that power to the wheels it actually felt faster when it wasn't. Even changing the gear knob on the C1 for something smaller and more nimble made the car feel faster and go better when really its a trick of the mind. Have you measured the 0-60 times with the unit and without? Have to say though what you've done with your 107 does look wicked. I'd have that over the Red C4 anyday.......

I was thinking the opposite and that a Supercharger would put the power up to over 90BHP? Turbo's and Supercharging make a huge difference but the car markers don't use them for various reasons, Reliability - goes drastically down, especially on small engines. Costs - These things bump the price of the car up. Power - The power tends to come on only after a few seconds and more so at the top end so in the real everyday driving it wouldn't be very effective. Fuel Economy - This would dive and its not good when your trying to make an economical city car that does 62MPG with low emmisions for the £35 road tax. I still keep thinking about this digital throttle and think its almost impossible to drive using one especially in traffic but also, what is the point of it? The chips work but again ruin fuel economy. PS - Whats with the pic on your messages, do you honestly believe that car looks good? Honestly?

What power does the Super Charge Engine chuck out then? Bet its great fun beating people off the lights who think its a standard 1.0 engine. Ever driven it yourself? If you hammer your three cylinder to much it will show in a few years time. The more cylinders the more power and punishement they can take. I think if they try to sell the cars more as second runabout cars that save a lot on fuel rather than the youth market I think they'll sell thousands more. A friend who has a petrol CRV worked out he could buy one and use it to commute and the saving on fuel would cover the cost of having and buying the second car.

I'm fairly sure a BMW driver would complain even louder as they don't expect it as much. Ever driven a 3 series, lovely, totally different class. To be fair I have only ever heard Citroen horror stories and could never understand how they have managed to stay in business although its been a close call if you look at their history. If your happy with your C4 then that's what matters. I think the C1 at £5,800 is fantastic value for money. If you compare it to a Fiesta then its not but the Fiesta I looked at was £9,500, massive difference. I only opted for the C1 because the price, it drove well and it was made by Toyota otherwise I wouldn't have gone near it. The C2 looks better but it too has bits drop off it...... For me, reliablity is everything!!!!!!

I'm a bit reluctent to modify my engine as a 3 cylinder might not take the punishment very well. The effect you've done on your car is very good though. Is it easy and cheap to get the black strips down the car as that and a spolier would be enough for me. Supercharged, now I would like to see that move. I have a Silver one but the best thing the C1 has over the Aygo and 107 is the rear lights so I'm keeping mine. The smoke effect does look a lot better than the others. I think the 107 has a slightly better front though where as the Toyota has the more dependable badge. I'm surprised the C1 is the slowest selling of the three being as its the cheapest. If they only advertised them better then I'm sure they would sell a lot more.

I didn't mean to offend. Just if you look at the JD Power survey, what actual owners think of their cars, rather than some Magazine guy who sits behind a desk then the facts are reversed. Citroen have dropped even further down the table as the years have gone on. Pugs are no better. I like my C1 as Citroen have only had to fix in the lights and thats the only problem that has arisen so far. Imagine what car it would have been if Citroen built the whole thing!!!!!! Focus or a C4, the Focus does look a lot better don't you think? Guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My C1 is just to get me to work and back, its no looker I agree. Didn't people from the C4 start the argument first after they had the C1 as a curtosey car?

How does that work? Do you not struggle to drive in traffic with a digital throttle?

That looks wicked, what is the address of this shop then? What do you mean by a swap of lights? Does the induction kit improve performance a lot? One of the guys on here has one but says he is getting 42MPG on a steady run, what are your figures?

If your getting that low MPG then I would get something with a bigger engine. A Mondeo 2.5TD with the six speed gearbox is amazingly fast. What advantage does the induction kit give you? Anyone else getting less than 50MPG?