C5 Exclusive Vs C5 Vtr Estate?

[delart]

Hi I am thinking of getting an estate how does the vtr estate compare with the saloon exclusive ? Age will be within a few years.

[paul.h]

What model year are you thinking of, 2008 to present, 2004 to 2008 or 2001 to 2004 ?

[delart]

Hi the exclusive I have is 2003 the vtr up to about 2006.

[Johndouglas]

 how does the vtr estate compare with the saloon exclusive ?

If you're talking about the last VTR estate, it will compare with the saloon exclusive very little.   The exclusive saloon will ride on hydropnuematic suspension whilst the VTR estate will have steel springs.   As Paul says, the age of the vehicles you're considering is all important.

[delart]

Hi and thanks so only the exclusives have hydro active suspension.?

[Johndouglas]

Hi and thanks so only the exclusives have hydro active suspension.?

That's right but only on the latest models.   Probably those built after 2008.   Prior to that date every C5 had 'proper' suspension.   Citroen have always played about with the 'toys' fitted to the exclusive models.   In 2005 for instance, xenon headlights came as standard on exclusive models, but by 2008 they were a very expensive option.

[paul.h]

This is comparing a 2003 exclusive hatchback with a 2006 VTR estate from 2003 and 2005 brochures.

 

The exclusive additional equipment over the VTR

- 6 cd changer

- side laminated acoustic glass

- better seat cloth

- slightly different alloy wheel but same tyre size

- xenon headlights

- front and rear parking sensors, electrochrome rear view mirror, auto folding door mirrors, indexable passenger door mirror when selecting reverse (may be fitted as an option on the VTR)

- electric front seats

- tyre pressure warning

- ambience pack - carpet mats, footwell lighting, chrome door sills, boot net, rear sunblind

- cruise control is standard on both but was not on 2003

- esp is standard on both but was not on 2003

- front foglights are on the 2005 but not the 2003 exclusive

- suspension sport function on the 2005 only on the 2.2 hdi and 3.0 petrol

 

Additional comments, having changed from a 2004 mark 1 VTR 2.2 hdi 136 bhp hatchback to a 2007 mark 2 VTX+ 2.2 hdi 173 bhp estate:

- the handling on the mark 2 2004 to 2008 C5 I have found is better than the earlier model

- fuel economy on an estate is not quite as good as the hatchback and the mark 2 2.0 hdi 138 bhp fuel economy is not as good as the mark 1 2.0 hdi 110 bhp.

- the mark 2 C5 is a bit longer than the mark 1 but the internal space is the same

- there is a 1.6 hdi 110 bhp for the mark 2 C5 but this may be a bit underpowered and the turbos seem to be prone to early failure

- a new 2.2 hdi 173 bhp twin turbo was introduced about 2007 and in VTX+ version this includes a built in sat nav

- the estate will not drip water in to the boot when the tailgate is opened

- the estate carrying volume is even more than the hatchback but the boot is a bit narrower over the wheels

- estate length mark 2 is 4839 mm, hatchback mark 1 is 4618 mm

- the estate is not any louder inside despite the open rear boot cover

- the cabin air intake has been changed so it does not let rain water run down in to the driver's footwell

[psicobra]

 

Hi and thanks so only the exclusives have hydro active suspension.?

 

That's right but only on the latest models.   Probably those built after 2008.   Prior to that date every C5 had 'proper' suspension.   Citroen have always played about with the 'toys' fitted to the exclusive models.   In 2005 for instance, xenon headlights came as standard on exclusive models, but by 2008 they were a very expensive option.

 

Woot that's why my 05 c8 exclusive has xenon head lights then nice

[seefive]

Non - exclusive automatic Mk3's had hydractive 3+ suspension , maybe not brand new ones now  though.

 

I've certainly seen mk 3 vtr+ models with  H3+

 

Spec wise, Mk3 exclusives lose xenons, but gain cornering lights, e-touch emergency assist, 2 stage driver seat memory, half leather upholstery,12 way electric seat adjustment, including shoulder adjustment, auto electronic handbrake with hillstart, larger colour screen for sat nav, air conditioned glovebox, interior ambiant lighting , plus a few more bits.. so not all bad news!

 

 

[paul.h]

I think the mark 3 2.2 hdi has the hydractive suspension on the non exclusive model, but this engine was only used until the 2.0 hdi power was increased to 160 bhp.

[seefive]

The 2.2 was up-rated to 200 ps and lived beside the 160 for a while, with enhanced exclusive spec equivalent to the 160 technopack. It was dropped on the last price list.