Newbie Please Help With Oil

[druid]

Hi
I need to do a oil change and have looked through a lot of posts on here and have gained some knowledge but I am still at a loss.
Can anyone tell me what oil I need for a C4 2006 1.6HDI?
Do I need fully synthetic or semi synthetic and what do C2 and C3 mean also what about the 5w30 or 10w40 parts mean?
Which is better?
I know I need low saps oil but its still confusing.
Is this any good?
Triple QX SynPlus 5w30 Fully Synthetic Car Engine Oil 5L - Low Saps C3
Or is this better?
Total Quartz 7000 10w40 Petrol/Diesel Engine Oil 5 Litre
Sorry if this as been asked before but I am totally confused.
Many Thanks

 

[paul.h]

Check in your Maintenance and warranty book but you are most likely to need Total Quartz INEO ECS 5w-30. This is about £35 for 5 litres from a dealer or a bit less from the internet. It is a full synthetic oil suitable for cars with a dpf (low saps, which is what C2 spec means). The total 9000 is a full synthetic and the 7000 a semi synthetic and will be slightly cheaper but will need changing more frequently so will cost more in the end.

 

I would be reluctant to use anything other than the oil in the handbook for the 1.6 hdi and would also use a Citroen oil filter and sump plug washer (less than £1 from a dealer).

 

If you are unsure, you could ask your Citroen dealer to do an oil change service, they do not charge much more than you can do it for since they get the oil in bulk.

[coastline taxis]

you cant muck about with the oil and servicing on the 1.6 as theyl eat the turbo,s. for the price and the peace of mind factor take pauls advice and put it into the dealers. if your in the tyne and wear area go to town center citroen and theyl see you ok

[druid]

Many Thanks guys

[druid]

Just 1 other thing.

So is saps C3 oil better to use than C2?

As I was going to buy this.

 

Triple QX SynPlus 5w30 Fully Synthetic Car Engine Oil 5L - Low Saps C3

 

or is this better

 

Triple QX 5w30 Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C2) Engine Oil

 

I don't have a DPF fitted on my model.

It is so confusing as to what oil to use.

 

 

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[Porsche430]

By the way, make sure your 1.6 HDi is piping hot before draining oil or it's bye bye turbo.

[paul.h]

Without the dpf you do not need to use the low saps oil (PSA spec B71 2290) although it is the only oil listed for the ones with a dpf. So from our 2011 maintenance guide that came with our C4 you can also use the Total 7000 10w-40 (PSA spec B71 2300), 9000 5w-40 (PSA spec B71 2296) or 0w-30 PSA spec B71 2296). So you are back to the confusion.

 

Our summers are not that hot so unless your car burns a lot of oil the 10w-40 is probably not needed. The 0w-30 might lead to oil consumption being thin but will give fuel effficiency. So that leaves the 9000 5w-40 or INEO ECS 5w-30. They cost nearly the same so the choice is yours.

 

The Triple QX oils seem to be a bit cheaper than the Total ones so you would need to see if they meet the PSA spec if you wish to use them (do a search on the specs eg http://www.oilspecifications.org/psa_peugeot_citroen.php). Personally, for the sake of about £10 I would use the Total ones - we had the same choice when I serviced the C3 - the handbook for the petrol vti engines gives the 0w-30 or the INEO ECS 5w-30 so I went for the latter.

 

C2 or C3 spec oils may not be better than each other, they just meet a different spec. This site suggests C3 does not need the fuel economy requirements of C2 http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-789-acea.aspx

[druid]

Many Thanks Paul

I think I will go for the Total Quartz 9000 5w40 I believe this is fully synthetic and will be ok.

Do you recommend those engine flush things you put in with your old oil and run them for a bit before draining the oil?

As I checked my oil and it is so black I am not sure when it was last changed and want to ensure the engine is as clean as it can be before adding new oil, I don't really want to use a engine flush as it can destroy the seals in the engine.

 

One more thing I have read that Citroen main dealers are now using Triple QX oil instead don't know how true it is but read it on a forum.

 

Many Thanks for any advice you can give me.

[paul.h]

Diesel engine oil will always be black as soon as new oil is put in, so the colour is not a good indication of its age.

 

Probably best if somebody else advises on oil flushes but there are pros and cons. It is possible a flush could dislodge bits that later block up the oil system and give problems.

 

When asked, my dealer said they were using Mobil P 5w-30 and this has PSA approval B71 2290. Since they buy it in drums it is not too expensive for an oil change. If they have recently changed to Triple QX I do not know.

http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LCW/carengineoils_products_mobil-super-3000-formula-p-5w30.aspx#

[druid]

Thanks

[citrophile]

I thought Triple QX was a EuroCarParts brand as they seem to have loads of different stuff on their shelves with that name??