jammy_dodger Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Hi newbie to the forum, my dad drives a Grey 2005 facelift VTR+ C5 2.0 HDI 138 with Xenons, Sat Nav, electric interior, Bluetooth and all the usual extras. He's had it defapped as it was giving him problems and remapped to around 180. Now the problems we're having with it is that the heater flaps aren't working anymore and it's only blowing cold air. We also have a constant rattle/knock coming from the front passenger side wheel. We had the ball joint replaced and it stopped but as soon as we got a new set of tyres put on it reoccurred anyone know what this is? Quote
Johndouglas Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Now the problems we're having with it is that the heater flaps aren't working anymore and it's only blowing cold air.Hello. First of all welcome to the forum. The trouble you're having with your heater happens quite often on older C5s. What may have happened is that the output shaft of the air temperature control geared motor and the plastic shaft of the control flap has broken. Quote
Johndouglas Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 He's had it defapped as it was giving him problems and remapped to around 180.When you've got a minute tell us about the defap and the remap. Changes to performance, fuel consumption, insurance premium increase .. :wub: and costs. Quote
Randombloke Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Hi newbie to the forum, my dad drives a Grey 2005 facelift VTR+ C5 2.0 HDI 138 with Xenons, Sat Nav, electric interior, Bluetooth and all the usual extras. He's had it defapped as it was giving him problems and remapped to around 180. Now the problems we're having with it is that the heater flaps aren't working anymore and it's only blowing cold air. We also have a constant rattle/knock coming from the front passenger side wheel. We had the ball joint replaced and it stopped but as soon as we got a new set of tyres put on it reoccurred anyone know what this is? I'd be interested to see how long the DMF will last at this power/torque level, or how long the transmission will last if no DMF. The rattle/knock could be the anti roll bar coupling. Quote
paul.h Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 If the heater flap motors need replacing, they were about £60 a couple of years ago and there is one for each side (assuming you have separate temperature control for both sides of the car). The passenger side is easiest to replace being located a bit in front of the cabin filter. The driver side one is still a diy job but access is awkward. A rattle/knock on our C3 was the anti roll bar drop link (coupling) so agree with Randombloke to check this. Quote
jammy_dodger Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Now the problems we're having with it is that the heater flaps aren't working anymore and it's only blowing cold air.Hello. First of all welcome to the forum. The trouble you're having with your heater happens quite often on older C5s. What may have happened is that the output shaft of the air temperature control geared motor and the plastic shaft of the control flap has broken. He's had it defapped as it was giving him problems and remapped to around 180.When you've got a minute tell us about the defap and the remap. Changes to performance, fuel consumption, insurance premium increase .. :wub: and costs. Hi newbie to the forum, my dad drives a Grey 2005 facelift VTR+ C5 2.0 HDI 138 with Xenons, Sat Nav, electric interior, Bluetooth and all the usual extras. He's had it defapped as it was giving him problems and remapped to around 180. Now the problems we're having with it is that the heater flaps aren't working anymore and it's only blowing cold air. We also have a constant rattle/knock coming from the front passenger side wheel. We had the ball joint replaced and it stopped but as soon as we got a new set of tyres put on it reoccurred anyone know what this is?I'd be interested to see how long the DMF will last at this power/torque level, or how long the transmission will last if no DMF. The rattle/knock could be the anti roll bar coupling.Thanks for the welcome! :) Hes changed his DMF and Clutch at 130K and its now on 158K, he firstly had Kingquick Tuning Box on it from 80K and it ran well, gave the best of both world power and economy. It still feels like new, much more refined and a much quieter engine than a similar aged 1.9 TDI Bora, we think this is down to it only ever being run on Fully Synth Mobil1 Oil. The anti-pollution warning came up on the computer a month ago and hooked it up to his Lexia ECU reader and found his fap was gone. He then went to a remapping company who offered to defap and remap it for £450. The tuning box was giving out around 150bhp and ran 78k without a hitch, it would give around 30-40mpg urban. Improvements of the car being defapped and the remapped are the turbo is spooling up much better, smoother pickup, 6th gear at 30mph is now possible, engine runs quieter and power and torque is available throughout the rev range, it's also running a K&N air filter and that's improved thing a little. It's returning around 5 mpg more, regularly seeing 42mpg around town. There was a lot of black smoke with heavy acceleration and is one of the reasons he had the tuner tweak the map for less power. Now there's a little black smoke which is to be expected from a defapped car. He's not to worried about the DMF/Clutch, he knows how to take car of it, doesn't boot it in a high gear and he replaced the gearbox fluid every 80k and boy does it make a difference, the tuner made sure there wasn't any sharp peaks. It's now producing 170BHP and 395NM of torque. Regarding the knocking we think its coming from the steering arm or inner track rod end does this sound familiar? He said that he had the same problem on his BX (DTRTD) ;) We have found a company who will sort the heater flaps out for £150 is this reasonable? They recondition our current one with genuine parts, based in Rotherham. Edited June 19, 2013 by jammy_dodger Quote
paul.h Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 £150 is ok if 2 new motors are needed and a couple of hours labour. If reconditioning is being done, it may just mean the cogs on the motors are being replaced. The motor I replaced (unecessarily) was Citroen part no. 6447.HH and on the motor has Valeo 24.06.04 594 and 653113V.E 11 - the latter is the Valeo part no. and the other is a date. It looks like this http://www.easyautoparts.eu/en/spareparts/peugeot/peugeot-406-99-04/heat/heatregulator-motor/t2231q-653118vc-valeo Quote
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