Sombody Please Tell Me I Havent Just Bought A Pup!

[qman3428]

ECUSAFE is here

 

http://www.tactrix.c...id=36&Itemid=58

[UVG]

thanks qman I've downloaded it but its called ECUflash is this the same thing that coastline recommended? looks like an interesting piece of software but it says it covers Mitsubishi and Subaru

 

im looking for any recommendations as far as fault finding, reading or programing software is concerned looks like my spanners are going to need an electronic friend

[qman3428]

My bad, wrong one, but I can only find ECU safe as a paid for download (over 500$) or as a pirate (full of virus infections) so if anyone else can find it I would like it as well.

[UVG]

i'll keep looking qman if I find it i'll let you know.

 

I've done as coastline suggested and put some soapy water around the injectors....its frothy man!

 

cars going in tomorrow to get the injector sorted garage has agreed to cover first £200 of repairs so hopefully it wont come to any more than this. i'll let you all know what the out come is

 

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[coastline taxis]

What advert is that off again "its frothy man"

[seefive]

• Posted Today, 07:00 AM

What advert is that off again "its frothy man"

 

 

 

Cresta soft drinks - back to the 70's (showing my age)

[UVG]

got to be honest I remember the ad but I couldn't have told you the name of the company :D

 

well the injectors fixed and for less than £75 if anyone needs a diesel specialist in the Peterlee area let me know I would recommend them (not sure if i'm allowed to mention them on here)

 

car running noticeably better haven't driven it that far yet so don't know if the misfire is cured yet but looks hopeful

 

coastline can you point me in the direction of ECUsafe because i'm having trouble finding it. if its still free its doing a good job of hiding! I've got a netbook and a lead on its way I just need the software now :huh:

[paul.h]

No problem in recommending a good service provider. There is a pinned post in the general discussion and nonsense section where you are able to recommend dealers so you could also post it there.

 

With a bit of luck your running problems may all go now and if your exhaust filter/eolys fluid was serviced at the recommended mileage then this may also be ok for some time yet. I did wonder if somebody who already has ecusafe and knows how to use it, would do a cut price deal to remove the filter from the ecu software but where the filter was knocked out by the car owner.

[UVG]

I'm not even sure that what I need is ECUsafe because everything I can find on the net suggests that ECUsafe is protection software to protect your own ECU programs at least that's the way I read it but I'm new to these computer controlled cars :rolleyes:

 

car is running well after yesterdays surgery but on my way to work this morning ..Beep... De Pollution fault... but the car still drives ok so to hell with it for now! once I find some software that will read faults and give me live data etc i'll look a bit deeper into the problem. the next important job at the mo is getting the timing belt replaced. cannot decide weather to do it myself or let the guys who did the injector do it. they are quoting about £200 including new water pump. so is it worth getting dirty but if I do it myself I start to learn the new car. :huh: decisions, decisions..... I feel the toss of a coin coming on :D

[paul.h]

If the timing belt change price includes the belt, the tensioner, any pulleys, the water pump, anti freeze (use Citroen long life stuff which is supposed to be OAT based additives), then that is a good price and should include a guarantee. Also consider the auxiliary drive belt since you mentioned a squeal previously and it will need removing to do the timing belt so no extra labour costs.

 

As a guide, the bits from Citroen for our 1.4 petrol C3 2 years ago were belt/tensioner kit £63, water pump £57, 3 litres anti freeze £14. I also replaced the thermostat £14, auxiliary belt £17 and its 2 pulleys £116 since these were due for replacement. I am always a bit unsure about getting the belt tension right but so far have been ok. You can probably get parts cheaper elsewhere but if the quality is not right and the belt/other parts fail the engine could be damaged. Citroen also do fixed price jobs such as timing belts but an internet search indicates £345.

 

If the diesel specialist has a code reader, get him to read the codes to see what the depollution fault is and look at live data before doing the belt, on the pretext so he and you know that his work has not caused any problems.

[UVG]

I'm still playing with the idea of doing it my self. I've done them before on BXs but had a bad experience with a bad head recon and a timing belt which wrote the top of the engine off!

 

it would be cheaper to do it myself I just cannot be bothered. I need to speak to the specialist and see what they would include for that price. if it includes the pulleys and the tensioners then it might be worth it.

 

not sure what you mean by OAT based additives?

 

the depollution fault has cleared again my neighbours code reader gives me the codes and I can check them against the code list on here and else where but having read them I still don't know how to relate that to the car and where to look for the issue.

 

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[Johndouglas]

 they are quoting about £200 including new water pump. so is it worth getting dirty

 

For that price they must just be changing the belt and leaving the pulleys unchanged.      GSF want £130 for a full belt kit and water pump

[paul.h]

On the anti freeze, they are all based on ethylene glycol  to lower the freezing point but there are additives to prevent corrosion of the various metals in the engine. These inhibitors are gradually used up so in time the anti freeze needs replacing, although if it has not been been diluted by topping up with water its freezing point should not be changed. The longer life additives are now organic acid technology (OAT) ones and these are not compatible with the older ones (which may use silicates or phosphates) so would need to be flushed out if you want to use the older ones. The colour of the anti freeze (possibly red, blue, clear, green) is from dyes so is not an indication of the anti freeze type. Citroen anti freeze is Glysantin G33 from BASF which is OAT based. When the car is new the original anti freeze is clear or slightly yellow but when you buy from a dealer it is coloured blue.

 

If you still have the code reader, do them again now the injectors are sorted and post them here again to see if we can help.

[qman3428]

As a guide I had the full belt kit including pulleys and water pump changed by my local main dealer for a 2009 2.0 hdi the bill was £474 including replacing the anitfreeze

[UVG]

quick update

 

I've taken the plunge and ordered a timing belt kit weather permitting and if it arrives on time I'm going to have a go at the weekend. I'll come back with feed back after the job is done but if anyone wants to give me any advise before I start it will be greatly received

 

car has been running nice since I had the injector done but I do still get this hesitation at around 2000 rpm I have read that this was an issue and that Citroën did release a remap for the ECU does anyone have any more info on this or how I can find out if mine has been done.

 

I've got myself a Galletto 1260 lead off eBay and I've managed to find some lexia 3 software does anyone know if the lexia software will work with the lead or do I need a special lexia lead still trying to find a copy of ECUsafe considering how many websites mention this software it appears to be awfully difficult to find

 

UVG

[qman3428]

Details of recalls are here

 

 

 

http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/recalls/recalls.jsp?modelID=C5&modelName=C5&makeName=Citroen&makeId=A7

[paul.h]

When I did the C3 (1.4 petrol) timing belt, I took photos of the old one still in place, especially around the tensioner, to help with refitting in case I could not remember how it went. I also marked the pulleys and old belt and casing with tippex to help with aligning everything. Getting the new tensioner set seemed a bit hit and miss but it has been 2 years since I did it and not had any problems.

 

In Haynes, for the C5 1.6 hdi it says to undo the tensioner bolt to set it but does not mention doing it back up - if you look at the same procedure on the other engines it should be done back up after adjusting the tensioner, before the engine is rotated the 10 times.

[UVG]

Thanks for the heads up Paul I'll make sure I tighten it up before I rotate the engine.

 

I'll come back and leave a review of how good bad the job is but might have to leave it until after hols

 

UVG

[UVG]

OK People I bottled it I didn't do the timing belt this weekend decided to leave it till after my hols

 

I'll come back with anything interesting once I get round to it

 

on a different note anyone recommend best cost for a MAF sensor I think mines U.S. as the hesitation appears to have gone away since I unplugged it

 

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[paul.h]

Eurocarparts website shows them at Â£100 and £125 and there are other sources but I would check at your dealer since I have read on here that sometimes cheaper ones may not work that well and if you go second hand it could be faulty and until it was fitted you would not know.

 

You sometimes find Citroen parts are no dearer than such as Eurocarparts - e.g. a new C3 front brake caliper £76 from Citroen, Eurocarparts website £76 + surcharge of £24 (and full price £189) + a second visit to take the old one back for the refund. My local Eurocarparts prices are usually different to the website as well.

[qman3428]

Try cleaning the MAF before replacing it use a good degreaser and a cotton bud but be careful not to break the wires. Had a similar issue on mine but it turned out that it needed a new fuel filter, disabling the Maf caused the engine to demand less fuel, hence the improvement, but after a time it got worse as the filter blocked. New filter, reconnect the MAF, job done.