Guest afy Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 That's the same filter that's on our older HDI. But it still has a hand primer up close to the suspension turret.Thanx - which side passenger or driver side? Quote
Johndouglas Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Thanx - which side passenger or driver side? Driver's. Quote
Guest afy Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Checked but could not find the pump. took it to a different garage to get the fuel filter checked. I found out that the previous garage changed the seal but not the filter. This garage said that he has no experience with citroens and does not know what the fault is. Can the filter cause this problem or shall I try to find another housing and change it? I need to find a proper diesel specialist in Bradford who can find the cause. Quote
coastline taxis Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Ok im asuming that youl have the bosch type of fuel filter housing. These are prone to causing problems with the fuel delivery. So changing the the housing is a very posotive step towards fixing this fault and probally the first step i would take if it was my car. If you get it from the dealers it will come with the filter in and make it a bit easier for you to swap over. When you remove the pipes to the filter housing have a look inside them to make sure the seals are present and sitting correctly then just push them onto the new housing till you feel them click and lock into place. to remove them look at the fuel pipes and youl see diferent coulor(green and white) oblong pieses of plastic at the end of the pipes push these in and pull the pipe off . No point in looking for a hand primer as yours dosnt have one Quote
Guest afy Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Ok im asuming that youl have the bosch type of fuel filter housing. These are prone to causing problems with the fuel delivery. So changing the the housing is a very posotive step towards fixing this fault and probally the first step i would take if it was my car. If you get it from the dealers it will come with the filter in and make it a bit easier for you to swap over. When you remove the pipes to the filter housing have a look inside them to make sure the seals are present and sitting correctly then just push them onto the new housing till you feel them click and lock into place. to remove them look at the fuel pipes and youl see diferent coulor(green and white) oblong pieses of plastic at the end of the pipes push these in and pull the pipe off . No point in looking for a hand primer as yours dosnt have one I don't know what type of fuel filter it has. I am attaching a link. there is a pic of a fuel filter on here that is the same as mine. I rang around the scrapers (local) who have quoted me £35 for one. Is it worth getting one or is it best to go straight to dealers. I think they are the push on/off type connectors. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/myglaren/P5092330.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D31582%26view%3Dnext%26sid%3Dd645b835ab6c7134b26ad550776c9f6a&usg=__w-WEdmo5YDrzJXzVlrZGQ_lGlOQ=&h=640&w=480&sz=63&hl=en&start=207&zoom=1&tbnid=s8t8YXiwOEWOXM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=119&ei=ZocwTdKgF8yNjAf89rn4AQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddiesel%2Bfuel%2Bpump%2Bcitroen%2Bc5%2B2002%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D550%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C6091&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=445&vpy=86&dur=859&hovh=259&hovw=194&tx=70&ty=120&oei=JocwTbCBE5KKhQfVy8CiCw&esq=2&page=15&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:207&biw=1003&bih=550 Quote
coastline taxis Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 well that type in the foto are normaly ok. change of plan now before buying filter housing take the conectors of one at a time and check the seals inside of them also do you no how to check the spill return pipes on the injectors Quote
Guest afy Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 well that type in the foto are normaly ok. change of plan now before buying filter housing take the conectors of one at a time and check the seals inside of them also do you no how to check the spill return pipes on the injectorsSorry don't have a clue. I have breakdown cover so have called the recovery service to see if they can start the car and hopefully give me a clue as what is wrong with it. Quote
Guest afy Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Sorry don't have a clue. I have breakdown cover so have called the recovery service to see if they can start the car and hopefully give me a clue as what is wrong with it. The recovery guy came and checked if there was fuel going to injectors when the engine turns over and there was plenty so fuel going to engine. he tried to put it onto computer but could not connect to car. He started it up using easy start spray and advised to take it to garage. Quote
Guest afy Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 The recovery guy came and checked if there was fuel going to injectors when the engine turns over and there was plenty so fuel going to engine. he tried to put it onto computer but could not connect to car. He started it up using easy start spray and advised to take it to garage. took it to another garage. I was told it the two injectors that are faulty. The reason i was given was because when the engine was turning over from cold there was no fuel coming out from injectors 3/4 (top of injectors where there are connecting plastic pipes from 1 injector to another) where as from injector 1/2 it cas coming out straight away. I was told that fuel should be coming out after a few seconds. As I know completely nothing about engines (as u have guessed by now lol). was advised that i need to replace injector 1/2. I was not sure of the garage diganosis and cannot afford to spend more money on guess work. Is there any truth in what the garage was saying. Quote
Guest afy Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 The recovery guy came and checked if there was fuel going to injectors when the engine turns over and there was plenty so fuel going to engine. he tried to put it onto computer but could not connect to car. He started it up using easy start spray and advised to take it to garage. took it to another garage. I was told it the two injectors that are faulty. The reason i was given was because when the engine was turning over from cold there was no fuel coming out from injectors 3/4 (top of injectors where there are connecting plastic pipes from 1 injector to another) where as from injector 1/2 it cas coming out straight away. I was told that fuel should be coming out after a few seconds. As I know completely nothing about engines (as u have guessed by now lol). was advised that i need to replace injector 1/2. I was not sure of the garage diganosis and cannot afford to spend more money on guess work. Is there any truth in what the garage was saying. Quote
paul.h Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Once you have it started it runs ok so I would have thought the injectors are ok or at least letting fuel through (but may be not enough for starting ?), but I am not an expert. Seems odd also that after the filter seal replacement, it ran ok for a few days which may suggest it is still a related problem - hence the suggestion to check the pipe connection seals. No wonder you are doubting the guess work diagnosis. If you have to go to another garage it may be better to go to a Citroen one with the correct diagnostic equipment. Where abouts are you, somebody here may be able to recommend a garage ? Quote
Guest afy Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Once you have it started it runs ok so I would have thought the injectors are ok or at least letting fuel through (but may be not enough for starting ?), but I am not an expert. Seems odd also that after the filter seal replacement, it ran ok for a few days which may suggest it is still a related problem - hence the suggestion to check the pipe connection seals. No wonder you are doubting the guess work diagnosis. If you have to go to another garage it may be better to go to a Citroen one with the correct diagnostic equipment. Where abouts are you, somebody here may be able to recommend a garage ?Thanks paul. I am in Bradford. Does anyone know a good garage who can solve the problem. Must be local. Quote
coastline taxis Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Ask them to get the injectors tested to make sure Quote
Guest afy Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Thanks.Anyone interested in buying it as I have no funds to get it fixed ? Quote
Guest afy Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 How muchSorry for the late reply have been away.Thanks for the reply. Insurance has finished and I have bought another car now. Citroen is parked up. Please make an offer. I have advertised it on net and have a few offers of swap but would prefer cash. Update on car. I opened the fuel filter/casing and checked all. I could not find any cracks or leaks. The thing I have noticed is.If you open the fuel filter casing and take all the pipes off. after putting it back again it runs fine and starts up straight away for 3 days and then the same problem (Not starting). If you repeat the same process then it will be fine again for 2-3 days. Quote
Malcolm Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Hi Afy. I've just come across your post and there is quite a lot of it. I haven't read it all but if I summarise it, it appears that the car doesn't want to run for any length of time. You then go on to say that if you open the fuel filter and or the fuel filler it will run ok for 2-3 days. This is a classic sign of the fuel tank breather blocked. Take the fuel cap off and try running the car without it Regards Malcolm Quote
Guest afy Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Hi Afy. I've just come across your post and there is quite a lot of it. I haven't read it all but if I summarise it, it appears that the car doesn't want to run for any length of time. You then go on to say that if you open the fuel filter and or the fuel filler it will run ok for 2-3 days. This is a classic sign of the fuel tank breather blocked. Take the fuel cap off and try running the car without it Regards MalcolmThanks For the reply Malcolm. I did try it but didn't work. Started it using easy start. What I meant was you have to open the fuel filter next to the engine. once it starts it drives perfectly fine with out any problems. only problems when starting. I have taken it to many garages but they don't know what they are doing. Quote
Guest womble Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Thanks For the reply Malcolm. I did try it but didn't work. Started it using easy start. What I meant was you have to open the fuel filter next to the engine. once it starts it drives perfectly fine with out any problems. only problems when starting. I have taken it to many garages but they don't know what they are doing. Have you checked that the pipes on the suction side from tank to filter are not blocked or collapsing/closing up under partial vacuum. Too much easy start is not good for an engine and they do get "addicted" to the stuff and won't start without it. Quote
paul.h Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 afy, out of interest, what car have you got to replace the C5, I would guess it is not another one ? Quote
Guest afy Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Hi Paul. Got a mitsubishi spacewagon GDI, 7 seater. Quote
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