Discs Warn Out Only After 22000 ?

[flitwick]

Took my car in for a service only to find that my frount discs are warn out
What do citroen make them out of plastic? Complete joke plus £200 for parts and labour surely they should last longer than this :D

[wozza]

They should do but it all depends on the way you drive as well.

If you break hard a lot of the time there gonna wear faster etc.

but they should have lasted longer than that.

[hertsnminds]

Pads and discs on my Pluriel were good for over 30,000 miles. I never had to change them in 22 months of ownership.

Ian
Black 55 VTR+

[Guest CE05LDB]

My brother had to have his done at 15,000 miles on his C3

[diggerdog]

Flitwick,

Id love to know what type of driving you do ie town/ city country roads motoways etc because im getting worrid new brakes every 2 years ish!

Because i have just got a cit berlingo and my last motor was a landy defender 80,000 miles disc all round never replaced and pads only on the front at about 62,000 miles had her from new 7 years old

[Guest CE05LDB]

I mention to my dealer about my breaks feel like they are rubbing on my C3 only 7,500 miles on the clock. So they said bring it up at 12,000 and they could be due to be replaced then

[pork_pie]

Do your brakes howl when you apply them when reversing?

This is a problem that Citroen cannot seem to fix.

To consider replacing them after 12000 miles should raise a few eyebrows.

[stimulator]

The discs and brakes on my C3 1.4HDi are now 14500 miles and are stille xcellent and give no problems. Sometimes squeals in reverse are due to dust bulid up int he rear drums.

 

Rear drum brakes consist of a leading and trailing shoe, the difference being which way round the shoes are fitted in the slave cylinder. On one the lining material starts almost at the slave and the other there is a gap. As the wheel rotates forward then the leading shoe is pushed into contact with the drum first and does the majority of the rear wheel braking. When going in reverse the original trailing shoe becomes the leading shoe and does all the hard work.

 

If you remove the drums you will find that the leading shoe will have done alot more work than the trailing and will be worn more. Dust collects on the trailing shoe and will squeal when it come sin contact. Sometime to allievate this problem filing a bevel on the end of the lining materials may help.

[Guest CE05LDB]

Yes they do make the squeel noise in reverse. So did my brothers on his 52 C3 1.4i SX Auto. Just see now how long it will take my brothers new C3 to do this which it will some time.

[flitwick]

I complained to citroen uk this was there reply

I am sorry to learn of your concern regarding the brakes and

gearbox on

your vehicle. As you may appreciate, brakes will wear progressively

during

the vehicle’s serviceable life and may eventually require

replacement. The

rate of wear will depend upon many factors but mainly the conditions of

use

and driving style will determine this. Citroën UK relies upon its

dealers

to identify the reason for failure and, if they can

identify a

manufacturing or material defect, the repair will be attended to under

the

terms of your warranty. If, however, no material defect is evident

and

wear is the result of driving conditions, as the owner of the vehicle,

you

would be responsible for any costs involved. Should your dealer

consider

Citroën UK has a responsibility, I am sure they will be

pleased to

represent your interests by contacting our Guarantee Department on

your

behalf

Not much good mind you i found a very good aproved dealer in bedford.He sust out the gearbox problems in minutes.Faulty selector bracket

[adman]

I had the same problem - after 3 years an MOT warning that the discs were showing signs of corrosion and wear. 18 months later - 4 yera service requirede complete replacement due to wear and corrossion. I'm told that it is fairly common place to have to carry out this replacement - due to composition of discs. I know from experience that after only a few days of standing on the drive in damp weather will coat the discs in fine rust that needs clearing by braking as soon as you move off - an almost routine occurence. By comparison my landrover has never had that problem and id on the same set of frony discs after 22 years - and they do experirnces the wet beyond the oddd rainy day od a regular basis.

 

Adman

[stimulator]

The reason for brake discs to wear out quicker these days is becasue they don't put asbestos in the pads anymore, as it is cancerogenic (spelling). So the pads are made of a harder material to compensat.

 

The life of discs seems to be anywhere from 15000 to 40000, my C3 shows 38K at present and the pads were changed at 20K and I was told last year at MOT time that the discs may need changing this year.

 

As for rust on the discs, this has always happened, as the disc is made of ferrous ,aterial it will rust a sthere is no oil or other protection on the surfaces.

[raveydavey]

22,000 miles seems low, but it does depend on your driving style and the journeys you make.

 

My 5-year old C3 has just had it's 3rd set of front pads at 76k, with the disks (I'm on the second set) reportedly still having plenty of wear in them, but I do a lot of my mileage on the motorway, so use the brakes a lot less than someone who is round town all the time.

[CE08LDB]

The reason for brake discs to wear out quicker these days is becasue they don't put asbestos in the pads anymore, as it is cancerogenic (spelling). So the pads are made of a harder material to compensat.

 

The life of discs seems to be anywhere from 15000 to 40000, my C3 shows 38K at present and the pads were changed at 20K and I was told last year at MOT time that the discs may need changing this year.

 

As for rust on the discs, this has always happened, as the disc is made of ferrous ,aterial it will rust a sthere is no oil or other protection on the surfaces.

 

Me and The Salesman I know at Citroen were talking about this last week funny enough he was explaining the difference now like and was saying that Citroen said the average miles the discs and pads would last upto is 13,000 miles and if you get more than that your lucky.

[Roders21]

C3 2003 100000 miles

Purchased with 8000 miles just changed pads and front disks myself, easy job.

parts about £80 from Europarts, about £160 from Citroen.

[john h]

Just had my c3 pic serviced, garage reports it will need new discs for 1st MOT in December, 28,000 miles, not good at all

[Johndouglas]

When your vehicle is MOT tested, it's the stopping ability that is tested.   Not whether or not the discs and pads are nearing the end of their life.   Best thing to do - if you are able, is to take a wheel off and look for yourself.

 

If that 28000 miles is from new, then IMHO although you may need new pads, you shouldn't need new discs.

[paul.h]

If you provide more info on your C3 Pic (model, engine, year) we can look up the disc thickness and then you can measure yours to see if they have worn to the minimum. Machine Mart sell a 0-25mm micrometer for £12 which will do the job.

 

Often at a service a garage may recommend pad/disc replacement on the assumption you will do the full mileage of the service interval before coming back and then have to consider if they will wear out in that time. So for a 2 year 20000 mile interval (unless 1.6 hdi), chances are they would wear out and hence the recommendation.

[john h]

. So for a 2 year 20000 mile interval (unless 1.6 hdi), chances are they would wear out and hence the recommendation.

 

Mine is the 1.6 hdi, sticker on door give this as 2 year intervals for service

[paul.h]

I would look in your Citroen service/maintenance book - for the 1.6 hdi it should say 12500 miles or 1 year, whichever is first. The 1.6 hdi in Citroens (and other makes using this engine) has a reputation for turbo failure and the annual service oil/filter change should not be missed.

 

The front brake discs will be either 22 or 26 mm thick when new with a minimum of 2 mm less.