ColinC1

Well I have a 4 door Aygo sitting on my driveway at present (its a relatives) and the rear door seals are dripping as we speak. I am going to sort them tomorrow as I did with my C1, by smearing the seals with silicon grease, as well as the one in the engine bay, to stop rain water getting on the engine block and electrics. I only have to do this every 4 months. The door seals, engine bonnet seals leaking are a well known fault on C1 and Aygo (I do not know about 107's), but they are all off the same assembly plant, so i assume there must be some 107's leaking as well. Anyway, according to my local citroen dealer in the knowledge, the fault seems to have stemmed from the way the seals are installed at the factory, by thumping them on with a mallet (I kid you not). This it seems, reduces the pressurisation of the seal against the metal when closed, hence drips especially when in a downpour. I have been told that all car seals from 08 onwards are now hand installed only, so the seal seems about 2 to 3mm thicker (I have witnessed that on 08 cars in the showroom) but do they work better, who knows ? Anyway my silicon grease method works as a solution, and thats now two years on, so I will live with it. Silicon grease details... RS components tube of grease part ... 494-124 or buy from any plumbers merchants. (Never use vasaline as that rots rubber)

So what was the big advantage of dealdrivers compaired to a Citreon dealership? I just checked the Vibe 3 door and its £5,935 compaired to Citreon dealer at £6,090. And if you are not trading in Citreon would knock another percentage off.

I also have the Vibe in red for two years now, its a great wee car. But... I to could not stand the car without central locking, and could not get used to being without, walking away a few times and forgetting about the passenger door still unlocked. To solve this is reasonably easy DIY. I fitted a 2 door solinoid kit supplied with two remote key fobs, remote control box, wiring, at just under £20 off Ebay. I removed the door cards (you will find my door card removal procedure in this link) http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citro...?showtopic=4449 I installed the solinoids and the pull rods, and located the remote locking control box behind the glove compartment. Ran a supply cable through a fuse from the battery, through the bulkhead. Also ran cabing out to the doors (the cutouts are already there with rubber bungs). Also ran wires to indicators which flash when operating the remote fob. One day it took to instal.

Thanks for that info.

If you do not want to pay for metallic paint (about £300 I think at current prices) then you are limited to red or yellow solid colours, thats why red has made a big comeback, not just with C1's. As for the Yellow C1 , I agree it is a biit green looking, the Peug107 is a far nice canary yellow. Anyway, I like your red 'tiny', I am a bit biased, because I have red myself ;) My Vibe with Aygo protection side strips (stick-on pieces for 3 door version, approx £60 from Toyota)..... http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g293/greatchi/PICT0024.jpg

Hi Turboslag, I am interested in fitting the Scangauge mark 2 as per that picture above, in the empty recess on the dash. Can you tell me the following.... A... How did you make the rectangular cutout fo the unit without damaging the sides of recess and dash? B.... Is there anything that can be damaged behind that cutout area, like vent ducts or wiring? C.. How does the unit fix solidly into the cutout hole (one inch depth I believe, going by the writeup)? D... Where exacly is the OBD socket under the dash ? Cheers Colin

This judder you are talking about, I assume the car is stationary when it happens, as you would not notice any engine load changes due to increase in electrical load, when on the move. When stationary and the engine is running. If you then put on a heavy electrical load like a rear windscreen heater or A/C, the electrical system demands more energy via the generator that works off the engine, so the engine willl change revs, ie, can slightly judder.

By the way all new car owners should still 'run-in' their car for the first 1000 miles, no matter what salesmen or others say. Keep the revs down, ie, no over-reving (for vibe owners just use your ear, as we have no rev counter) keep the speed reasonable, not way over 70, and vary it so the car engine beds in (wears in) correctly. This will give you a better running engine over the lifetime of the car, should only take a month or less for this run-in periond. As for economy well I get on average 58 MPG in my 1.00 litre petrol Vibe. Economy does go way down if a head wind is real strong against you and its a long motorway journey, I have seem my economy go down to under 40 MPG with this. This is because small engines are not strong enough to counter head winds without placing that right foot futher down on the pedal. I got this also on my previous Smart Fortwo.

Hi StormB, welcome to the forum ;) Thats a really good price for a Rythm, did you get it at the Citroen dealer?, as I just saw an advert on TV last night quoting the Vibe at £6095, and the Rythm at £7410, so you did well there, Was it mettalic as thats another £300 ? As for the speaker wiring to the back, well it does not exist on Vibes (my car). I have seen rear speakers on the back shelf of a C1 but it was stenghthened up underneath it with some plyboard. It also had removable jack plugs on the wiiring, so the rear parcel shellf could come out the car. As for accessories, remember to buy the RHD glove box, its just a front panel that hinges, a half hours DIY job, at £30 for the part. It really finishes off the dash. Enjoy your car, there are good wee drivers in town and on the motorway.

Its usually only the front windscreen that is covered at £60, unless you take on an all glass coverage policy which is more expensive. Also some people have been caught out with these wrapover panoramic windscreens that go up over the top of the winscreen, as they are not covered, unless added to the policy. My last car a Smart Fortwo had a glass roof, and it was well known for a stone chip to fly over and onto the roof and shatter them into thousands of pieces, to a great fright for the occupants while driving. The cost was high to replace them as they were bonded into place. never happed to me, thank goodness.

Have a look at these 3 common rattles at the back for starters ( I had them all ) ... 1...Spare roof ariel hidden under rear seat (quite common, I kid you not :lol: ) 2...Rear window hinges need lubrication (solution below) 3...Rear seatbelt anchorages have slack (solution below) http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citro...ic=5406&hl=

This is as bad as a pink car with furry dice :D

Possible Oversteer....... Argh ! OK, I am going to leave them as they are, Thanks all. Just for future nformation, what price are new tyres for the C1 ?

Mmmmh, replacing 4 at one go is costly. I know I should get another years motoring out the front set, if I leave it as it is , but 12.5k miles + say another 8k is still pretty poor for a tyres lifespan. Usually I get at least 40k miles per tyre on previous cars. I will give it some thought now. How is everyones elses front tyres doing ?

Well, 12.5k miles since new (19 months old), and am quite shocked how much tread is off the front wheels compaired to the back. Still road legal though. I have owned quite a number of small radius wheeled cars in the past, but this is very fast wearing, considering I do not break heavy, speed, or go round corners fast. The wear is even on both front tyres, so no problems regarding suspension geometry or tracking, it is just genuine road wear. I assume it must be quite a soft rubber. So this weekend I intend to move the tyres from front to back, on each side of the car and get a bit more life out the the worn tyres. This means using the spare wheel to move front to back. Oh, the Joys of motoring on a budget.

Very nice ;) Mind you, you have me thinking now whether they would fit in a C1, as the bezel is diferent, ie, the pug 107 is coloured, and the C1 is clear. I have never opened up the rear light cluster, so i do not know if there are coloured red and orange plastic pieces in the way, within it to colour the bulbs, or whether they are just coloured bulbs.

Your info on the problem is rather vague, but solutions to engine vibration are usually ..... Outside of the engine... check all engine and gearbox rubber mounts, and gearstick linkages. Inside of engine... miss-timing, running on two cylinders instead of three, fuel injection blockage to cylinder, .... ie, check fuel, air intake, and ignition systems. its really a case of back to the garage under warrenty, though you can try any other citroen dealership, if you are getting no joy from your local one.

The 'city bug' name covers the C1, Pueg 107 and Aygo which are all made in the same factory using most of the same parts. This is handy because you can mix and match accessories from all the makes. Being a 'city bug' does not mean it has to be a city car, it can be used everywhere, A roads B roads, motorways, etc, though not off road as it is too low to the ground (I found this out the hard way, when trying to park on waste ground) :P City bug, means easy to park, easy to drive, good fuel economy, and overheads are low, and the C1 does that just fine ;) Do I get my Brownie points now :)

Argh! Why not just have a simple switch, instead of multiple switching inputs to control the CPU software :D I had this on my prevoius Smart Forwo, where buttons, ignition positions and handbrakes had multiple software functions to toggle the CPU commands, it was madness ! To stop the Fortwo auto-locking, where the door solinoids locked the car when over 5 MPH, you had to do contorsions with these controls, rather than a dedicated physical switch. To disconnect the passenger airbag for a child seat, you had to buy a specific seat that plugged into the cars electrics to tell a child seat was in situ, then it had to be taken to the dealer to have the CPU programmed to accept airbad disconnection. Whereas the C1 has an on-off switch under the dash. As cars get more dependant on CPU programming, there will be more of this crazy, software switching instead of a designated physical switch, and I for one do not like that at all :huh:

The C1 version ties in with the grey trim of the C1, does the Aygo do the same ? As for buying the C1 glove box, it is a must, but remember to ask for the RHD British version, and yes it does exist, as most dealersips say NON it does not exist! :lol: It take about 30 minutes to fit, and you need a dumpy phillips screwdriver to fit it in, plus the plastic tie to prevent the glove box lid rotating more than 90 degrees, is next to useless, so dont bother fitting that, as the glove box is ok without it.

I thought this was going to be about sticking Toyota badges on instead of Citroen :lol: It may as well be as there is nothing French about this car, its made in Eastern Europe to a Japaese specification, and the engine/transmission in the petrol car is Japanese. If Toyota accept the Aygo, which is made in the same production line as the C1 and Peug 107, then they all must be good. In fact the last time I was in my local Citreon garage, the service desk manger told me he wished all their cars were as reliable as a C1. PS... why remove your rear wiper ?

Thanks for letting us know that Tim, that sounds real serious. Did you unwind it fully off the screw or did it fall apart before that happened ? I will be inspecting mine this weekend now, as it is not normally something you look at untill you need it.

You should get on average 58 MPG for 35 LITRE TANK, thats based on 18 months driving. If you get a strong wind heading towards you, it will go down quite dramitic as a small engined car needs to apply more foot to the floor to counteract wind. I got that heavy winds straight on going to the Highlands on holiday last week, and my fuel consumption was way down, but that seems to be the only condition where MPG is poor. Each notch on the gauge is roughly a gallon. When you hit the last notch before empty, it gives a few audiable beeps, which makes you jump, later the notch flashes :unsure: Again I would base that one notch as one gallon left, but I always look for a petrol station by then, as I would never leave the tank as low as that, though I have done 20 miles on a flashing notch looking for a petrol station, but its a cold sweat feeling ! The handbook states when beeps operate there are 5 litres left, thats just over a gallon. Constant flashing means 3 litres left, and then you start worrying.

Must have been a slack roof ariel.

Well I went from a two seat Smart Fortwo to the four seater C1, so I was stepping up to a bigger car :rolleyes: The funny thing is I bought the Fortwo because of the fuel economy of 60 MPG, yet the C1 delivers just about the same, and has a far smoother engine, gearchange and ride. My biggest dissapointment with the Fortwo was the cost of repairs, like £400 for a new front spring requiring total dismantling of the front bodywork to get to it. Also much of the car was reliant on complex CPU controls, which had a tendency to go weird sometimes, requiring a CPU reboot, ie, switching off and trying again, much like the old Windows 95 computers :lol: Don't get me wrong, I loved the quirkiness and funky looks of the Fortwo, but it was a headache once the two year warrenty ran out, and it no longer was an economic car, due to garage costs. I am really happy now on having a reliable C1, where you know the drivetrain is going to work properly, and the brakes are going to do the right thing :angry: