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Here mate try these instead you know it make sense WARNING MAY MAKE YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-ALLOY-WHEELS-CITR...1QQcmdZViewItem

Z3 M Something that may interest you mate got part number there etc so may be able to go see how much it would be. http://www.citroen.com/NR/exeres/CCEA0C08-...FF467B54F01.htm

Then again i wanna paint my brakes red and also get my wheel centres like these ones with the red stripe http://www.citroen.com/NR/rdonlyres/6A9480...R2035_p32_5.jpg

More rotating mass. Bigger the wheel . tyre the faster you go but you get there quicker it alters gear ratios basically. Those 19's arent really that much different to the stock wheels and tyres though rolling radius wise. the difference would be around 1.6% out so at so at 60 the newer 19's would be 1mph out So smaller wheels gives more accleration bigger wheels gives a better top speed.

In my opinion i think that might look a bit tacky or just not suit. photoshop is needed though i think to see as it might look fairly good since your car is quite a dark colour i dont know.

febreeze? lol

Well it would not be a comfortable ride due to tyre profiles. But looks wise would look great just would affect handling, acceleration making the car slower gives it more grip though in the dry.

Would go on easily. 19's with those tyres rpobably arent much different to the 17's with the 50 profiles.

I dont thats what you get for driving like a dick and trying to go down a street that only the metro bus is allowed down usually.

But its the 207 now and well puegout have not got a great reputation anymore plus would not want a car that new on the market theres bound to be tonnes of teething problems just like the C4 had. And look at 307 owners how many of them have very serious faults.

I seriously doubt that, why would a manufacturer under quote its cars performance figures. If you put the car on a rolling road I would put money on it not actually having as much bhp as quoted on paper. Bearing in mind the bhp on paper is bhp at the flywheel and not at the wheels. As for a 1600cc diesel doing much more than 115mph, again I doubt it. Perhaps down a seriously steep hill with a tail wind. If you like to do traffic light grand prixs you will probably want a petrol, however if you do a lot of motorway miles and like more torque and acceleration through the gears then probably best to go for a diesel. Personally if I were in the market for a hot hatch, I am sorry to say I'd buy the 182/197 Cup/Trophy. Clio 182 has been quoted as a 0-60 of 7.1 yet EVO tested them best they managed was 6.3 notice nearly a second difference also seen them going down pod standard and getting similar output. Rolling roads are not accurate they can over and under read and even things like tyre pressures can alter the reading or if you changed wheel sizes etc. Remember the at the fly figure on a rolling road is basically just a guess you usually get 2 readouts 1 with at the wheels power it then basically has a good guess which is why they let them spin down on there own this helps to work out the transmission losses. WHich vary FWD usually lose 12 - 15% typically some do lose more. RWD is 17 - 20% and AWD can be 25%+ so if a clio produces 166bhp at the wheels its put the atf figure just about right at 185bhp. Even how an engine is broken in affects power engines driven harder from new usually put more power down than those broken in over a few thousand miles. A lot of manufacturers underquote there figures too. Good example is the 106GTI and SaxoVTS Both cars are near enough identical same engine same weight etc etc. Yet 1 on paper does 60 a second faster. The reason being citroen quoted there 0-60 with 1 person and just a small amount of fuel the 106 was quoted with 2 people 1/2 tank of fuel and some luggage. Which is the reason the 106 is 1 group lower insurance wise so more appealing to younger drivers. Fiat do it as well there 1.4 engines Always produce more than there supposed to. there 1.8's which are supposed to be 130 i have never seen one rolling road with less than 140. Many manufacturers do it to keep insurance groupings down. If i was in the market for a hot hatch though Clio RS would be up there and the new mazda as well as the new grand punto abarth thats coming out soon theres one before that coming out with 220bhp though.

Not sure how long it is from Manchester

There OZ Palladio's in a 19" wheel tyres are 235/35 ZR 19 not sure if its been lowere or if the arches have been made to fit the wheels better though gonna go with both though details dont list any suspension mods as far as i can see.

How come?

Go into your local dealers mate prices seem to change between them. Some people were getting told the VTS spoilers were only £250 i was told it'd be £550 at my local place. So changes between them it seems quite drastically for some bits.

The armwrests are the same the cd changer is just fitted into it if i remember correctly. Citroen sell them as one of there accessories.

Heres whats needed for directions. Bury Little 66, Route 66 Leisure Park, Pilsworth Road, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 8RS Theres a pub there called the paper mill after getting off the M66 you will see a travel lodge its right next to there also a mc donalds there as well. And across the road a Megabowl, Asda, Cinema and the usual eating places frankie and bennys etc. Very easy to find junction 3 on the M66. All i need to know is when you guys plan on being there. And if anyone else feels like coming get your names down! The more the merrier. And who is going to donnington on the 10th for the Renault (Rubbish) world series?

Well mine will be getting done in a few days hopefully apparently they just clip on.

Hope i dont get this one as well :/ If i do im gonna be driving my cinquecento for a few days cars going into get scratches and rub strips done in a few days hopefully and if this has to be done as well :/. Also need to sort out couple of the rear trim pieces around the boot as there a little loose and rattling when the sub thumps due to bodyshop braking the clips. So if i get this im not gonna see my car for 3 or 4 days :lol:

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For those of you that want tickets for donnington go here the other link was a bit more messing about. http://www.worldseriesbyrenault.com/donington/uk/ once you filled in your details they should email you just make sure you click the link in the email they send you.

I think im a good driver i have a good ability on the road but i was taught from the beginning by an IAM driver. But now i actually want to join the IAM and then go from there into other driving courses that are more advanced want to make the conscious effort to improve my driving ability and only way to do that is to be taught to drive more experiance can only get you so far. I mean i was good at the beginning but looking back i was a little too cocky about my driving did some daft things but now i look back and realise i was not a terrible driver i just didnt have enough experiance or know enough about my car and my own abilities which resulted in a very near bad accident as a result. After that i made an effort to improve. Would like to do some track days but again would like to get some proper tuition for it so i can make the best of it as me being a better driver would mean i was more confident able to do more and ultimately id enjoy driving on track more etc. Plus me being under 25 means its cheaper to join the IAM and some of the places give you your money back when you pass if your under 25. Also effects insurance prices etc. Makes sense to me to do it.

If your going to buy a year old car why buy from a dealer. Its still under warranty etc if you buy it privately from someone else buying from a dealer just means its gonna cost more etc. See buying my clio new was the best thing i could do free insurance for the 3 years bought it for £8800 got £6000 for it 3 years later. Cant complain really then would have lost more money buying an older car and insuring it myself.

Tell him to send it back i would. Move up to a C4 or have a look at some of the other similar cars suzuki swift, new punto, clio etc all nice cars.

My family has had brand new cars for the last 10+ years change them every 2 - 3 years usually and it works out better buying new most of the time for us. And about passing the test when you pass your driving test you have just met the minimum needed to drive legally. Most people dont know what to do in a skid what to do when the back end slips what to do when there aquaplaning etc etc. These things you need to learn and experiance. You generally need to work on your observation its all things that come with time and practice a person who just passes the test usually cant judge the best entrance speed of a corner etc. Theres a reason insurance is higher for our age group. Lack of experiance results in them pushing too much and going out of control or going too fast etc etc. Trust me in a year or so you will look back and realise you were a bad driver after just passing your test. I thought i was an alright driver when i first passed i was pretty much a natural behind the wheel but i can say now after having more than 2 years behind the wheel i am a much better driver than i was at first.