noelgourdie Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hi, I have bought the new clutch and preparing for the job by reading all the forums, and watching all the youtube videos I can, as I live in rural France and once I start the job I'll be without transport till I finish the job. Do I need to pull the driveshafts out of the hubs to get the shafts out of the gearbox, or can I pull the driveshafts out of the gearbox without removing the shafts from the hubs, once I have undone the bottom ball joints? You help will be appreciated. Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLane Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 From the Haynes manual it looks as though you have to remove the hub from the driveshaft before you can withdraw the driveshaft. Make sure the hub doesn't rotate before slackening the nut. (Get someone to press the brake pedal hard!)Then drain the transmission,Slacken and remove the lower balljoint nut and free the balljoint from the lower suspension arm. Remove the protector plate if it's loose. (Note: always use a new balljoint nut on re-assembly.)Release the wiring harness from the retaining bracket on the inner wing. Carefully pull the hub carrier assembly outwards and withdraw the outer CV joint form the hub assembly.Support the driveshaft and carefully withdraw the inner CV joint from the transmission. Be careful not to damage the driveshaft oil seal.Then remove the driveshaft. As I said, this is from the Haynes manual but I've not done it myself! Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelgourdie Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hi Mike, Thanks for replying. I had read that in the Haynes Manual but http://pmmonline.co.uk/technical/clutch-clinic-citroen-c5/ don't make any reference to it at all, so I was wondering if it was just an optional step. Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndouglas Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 This is copied from the Citroen repair manual - unfortunately the diagrams won't copy so the numbers mentioned are irrelevant. Disconnect the battery negative terminal. Remove : The front wheels The front right and left hand splashshields The protective panel under the engine The ECU housing cover (1) Disconnect and remove the ECUs (according to option). Release the wiring harnesses. Remove : The exchanger outlet air duct ( 2) The air filter (3) box The air duct (4) Drain the gearbox . Unclip the tube , as "a". Remove the bolts (5). Move aside the clutch slave cylinder from the gearbox housing. Remove the nuts (6). Uncouple the lower swivel ball-joints ( 7) Using tool [1]. Remove : The screws (8) and (9) The collars at the duct extremities (10) The pipe (10) The exhaust clip (12). The torque reaction rod screw ( 11). Disconnect the gear selection controls. Put in place the engine retaining crossmember [ 2]. Remove the gearbox using a workshop hoist. Remove : The 3 upper fixing screws of the clutch housing on the engine The 3 fixing screws of the mounting (13) Unplug : The gearbox earth cable The speedometer drive connector Remove : The fixing screws of the starter The starter motor The lower screws of the clutch housing and the closing panel of the engine flywheel Disengage the gearbox from under the vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelgourdie Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hi Moderator, Thanks for you reply. I think I've got all the information from the multiple sources I need to confidently do the job. I'm planning to undertake the job next Tuesday weather permitting. I'll let you know the result. Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul.h Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 On a C8 recently BigBruv had to remove a drive shaft from the gearbox but could not undo it at the hub end but managed by your original suggestion, so it is something you could still try. It also saved him from having to get a high setting torque wrench to do up the hub nut. http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/23870-now-my-turbo-has-blown/?hl=driveshaft&do=findComment&comment=89453 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLane Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Just found my receipt for plastic nuts and clips for the wheel arch liner. The parts are: 8211WV Hog Ring (30p each)712731 Plastic Nut (92p each)6991X7 Blind Rivet (32p each) all prices exclude VAT I bought 5 off each for £9.24 (just in case as one or two were broken when I removed the liner looking for a water leak) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESL57 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Lots of people find hubs seized. If you have to remove hubs with driveshaft attached, it makes it awkward to refit the driveshaft without damaging a seal. That is especially true on the O/S. Best to get pair of seals for driveshaft at gearbox as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelgourdie Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hi, Thanks for your advice. I have ordered the parts. Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelgourdie Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Hi, Progress has been slow, and I have found it impossible to undo the N/S drive shaft bearing support bolts. As I can't get these bolts undone, even though I have sprayed them with CRC, I'm wondering if it is necessary to remove the N/S drive shaft prior to the gearbox removal or will the N/S drive shaft slide out of the gearbox anyway as the gearbox is removed? Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelgourdie Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Hi, Our car is LHD so I may have got my O/S and N/S confused. I bolts I can't undo even with CRC, are the are the bearing support bolts on the long driveshaft.I'm wondering if it is necessary to remove the long drive shaft prior to the gearbox removal or will the long drive shaft slide out of the gearbox anyway as the gearbox is removed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul.h Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 In the Haynes manual for the 2001 to 2008 C5 under drive shaft removal for the right hand one (your N/S) page 8.2 section 7, it gives that the nuts may first need removing and then the bolts turning 90° before they can be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastline taxis Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 You really need to have the drive shaft out. if the bolts are siezed then a quicker option would be to just unbolt the whole mounting/bearing carrier from the back of the engine. Think its 3 or4 16mm bolts. then slide the whole lot out with the driveshaft still in the carrier and you can then remove the 2 drive shaft bolt a lot easier when its on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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