Help Required For Removing Software Dpf File From My Ecu

[TheGoose]

Hello to all members of the forum!

 

My name is Mike and I own a Citroen C5 Exclusive 2.2 HDI Hatchback 2001 year (Y reg). I had the DPF filter blocked message pop up, back in last year. So after reading on this forum I decided to bash out all the innards of the DPF/CAT section of the exhaust. Which did solve the problem for a while, but after a month or so my car came up with the Anti-Pollution Fault and Instant LIMP mode. How annoying! Limp mode is always on now. I was expecting this to happen from what I read on the forum.

 

I was planning on getting my car re-mapped and DPF removed from my ECU aswell, but due to massive money problems at the moment I cant afford the £200 odd pounds to get this done. I have read on here that there are some people with the ECU cable, and the software who could read my ECU file and remove the DPF file/s from the ECU and hence stopping Limp Mode. As this can be quite dangerous driving around like this, especially when you really need the power to get out of sticky situations.

 

So my question is: Is there any members of the forum who could remove this file from my ECU? Taking my car out of Limp Mode? I will consider a remap at a later point in time as and when I can afford this. But at the moment my car feels a bit dangerous sometimes, espeically when Im going up a hill with no power!

 

I live near Birmingham, I am quite prepared to travel to you, or you can come to me maybe?

 

Please let me know, and how much you would charge me...

 

Thank You

 

Michael

[coastline taxis]

think i would get your car plugged in 1st as you might have a unrelated fault

[ukwide]

think i would get your car plugged in 1st as you might have a unrelated fault

 

That is very good advice from Coastline. I had a similar problem and tried all sorts of fixes only to find the Fuel Filter hadn't been changed at the last service and was restricting the flow of diesel to the engine causing the Anti Pollution Fault and Limp mode, new fuel filter = no more problems..voila Rodders

[TheGoose]

Hi thanks for your reply, Im pretty sure its just the DPF thats the issue. I have already done a service, which included the diesel filter. Coastline has dropped me a PM to help me remove the DPF file from ECU. So hopefully this will remove the error and limp mode, I will keep you informed!

 

Thanks

 

Mike

[TheGoose]

Well... I have received the Galetto cable and ECU read/write software. I have identified my ECU as BOSCH EDC15C2. I have installed Galetto cable USB Drivers, and I have hooked this upto my car, I clicked on read ECU DATA. Which returned the results to say that it has found my ECU (I guess). Then I clicked on the READ ECU button, which has successfully read my ECU data file, and I have saved this to my Desktop, and a MASTER backup copy to another location on my laptop. Just in case! File size is 512Kb...

 

Now onto the next part. I havent got the instructions on how to modify this file, to remove my DPF file from the ECU file itself. I have already smashed out the innards of my DPF/CAT. So the obvious end result is Anti-Pollution Fault and permanent Limp mode.

 

So is there anyone out there who could advise me on how to perform the file modification, as to remove the DPF part, and remove the limp mode aswell.

 

Just to clarify I only have the Galetto Cable and the software to Read/Write ECU DATA. and nothing else..

 

I sure hope that someone can help me!

 

Thanks

 

Mike

[TheGoose]

Well just an update guys and girls I have now sucessfully removed my DPF file, so now my car is back out of limp mode, no service lights on either. Pulls like a train!

 

Many Thanks to Coastline Taxis for helping solve the issue!

 

Regards

 

Mike

[DaveHerns]

You need to be an I T whizz-kid these days !

Which rules me out ....

[devilish]

TheGoose

 

How did you manage to alter the dpf file yourself . Im in the same situation just about to source what I need to do it myself ie Gellatto etc

[TheGoose]

TheGoose

 

How did you manage to alter the dpf file yourself . Im in the same situation just about to source what I need to do it myself ie Gellatto etc

 

I will drop you an Email when I finish work tonite, around 9 pm ish.

 

Thanks

 

Mike

[Bobster]

Hi Mike,

 

It sounds like you have cracked it! As I may well be doing the same later in the year, I would be most grateful if you could advise where you got the galletto cable and software from and which files need removing.

 

My car is an '03 2.2 HDi; I have had 3 "Unblock Diesel Filter" messages;after the first, I drove down a motorway at 70 in fourth for 10 minutes and this lasted for 8 months; the second time it lasted one month, so I got my local independent garage to put it on his Lexia; he tried a forced regeneration but the Lexia would not oblige, so he hooked it up to another computer, Sun I think, and the regeneration worked; the DPF pressures were 'as new' and the car, which performs well anyway, was even more perky and gave me another 5 mpg.However 2 months on the message has re-appeared, so I think it's time for the FAP to go, it seems harsh on the engine to run it at 4000 rpm for 4 minutes etc to raise the exhaust temp to furnace levels.

 

I hope your C5 continues to delight.

 

Best wishes, Bob H.

[alipatch]

Hi Mike

 

Sounds great - perhaps you can help me too then. I have had the same problem with the same car c5 2.2hdi - where can I buy the cable and the software and the instructions of how to read, remap and sort this horrible limp home mode which has been bugging me for some 2 years plus - I have not been able to use my caravan during this time because of the lack of power - same as you funds are really tight just now having just been laid off from work but over 2 years plus have sent a fortune on my car which now has no value - appreciate any help please!

 

Alipatch

[c5_on_a_shoestring]

Hi

I am new to this forum, but I too am looking to alter my ECU file. I've read the ECU with a Galletto 1260. I have a 512K file. The next bit I'm not sure about as there are a lot of dodgy ECU Safe s/w downloads about. Can anyone please help. I have put up with this for the past three years and I wish to remove the DPF and eolys files, just need a step in the right direction.

I want to sort it out before I go towing again as it's quite dangerous at times.

Thanks

Henry 

[paul.h]

Welcome to the forum.

 

Have you removed the DPF and eolys systems ? The MOT test was changed in February this year and if a car is found to have an originally fitted DPF removed then it will fail the MOT. There was an article in the Car Mechanics magazine and they asked insurance companies about cars with a dpf removed and they got a reply that they would not insure such a car. So a car with a dpf removed would fail an MOT, would not therefore be legal to use on the roads and would not have valid insurance. So rather than removing files, it may be better to get the dpf system working.

[qman3428]

My car has the DPF removed and sailed through the MOT in May. It would appear they only look to see if the DPF box is still there as some garages remove it and fit a pipe. So if you bash out the innards they still see the box and there are no further checks. That might change in the future when they do comparisons of software but for now it seems to be a none issue.

[paul.h]

qman3428, did you have any bother with the insurance company ?

[john h]

Cut the silence with a knife !!!!!

[c5_on_a_shoestring]

My DPF is still fitted with internals removed, it went through its MOT in December with low emmission readings, these 2.2 HDi engines are very good on that score. The previous years MOT when the DPF was "standard", it was so blocked they couldn't get a reading hardly. They had to check the sensor was still in the exhaust pipe. The Eolys has not been touched, I just want to disable it. The Minimum Eolys Additive service light has just started flashing up this week, so I need to remove it from the folder. When the eolys runs out, I'm hoping it doesn't go into any stupid limp home mode.   :)

Edited August 20, 2014 by c5_on_a_shoestring

[TheGoose]

Hi Guys,

 

Unfortunately I still own my Citroen C5 haha, but over the last fews months the error "Anti-Pollution Fault" pops up with an engine management light, sometimes it puts the car into limp mode and sometimes not and then goes out all by itself!  Weird, but I have no way of reading the fault code/s myself so I am not sure if it is related to my modification or not.  When the engine isn't in limp mode it runs fine with full power.  It has been recently serviced as well, this is starting to get annoying and potentially dangerous now especially when on motorways and limp mode kicks in.  

 

Does anyone know the best/cheapest way for me to read my fault codes, and any other ideas as to what this problem might be related to?  

 

Thanks

 

Mike

 

 

[Johndouglas]

Am I reading this correctly? You've removed the particle filter but you haven't changed the ECU programme? If so that will give you all sorts of fault codes........................ Since this topic was started (2012) it has now become an offence to drive on the highway in a car which doesn't have the emission system installed as when it left the factory.

[coastline taxis]

hi goose the anti pollution fault on the display flags up when any one of 5 systems get a fault so i really dont think its anything to do with the dpf side of things  as i know which way you removed it. unfortunatly ul be like a dog chasing its tail without diagnostic help. check the list on the forum to see if theres anybody near you with diagnostic tools or get one of ebay as there quite cheap at the min and you can always sell it on when youve done with it.  

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PP2000-Lexia-3-Diagnostic-Interface-Scaner-Tool-Diagbox-For-Peugeot-Citroen-/331488059447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2e3a6037

[TheGoose]

Am I reading this correctly? You've removed the particle filter but you haven't changed the ECU programme? If so that will give you all sorts of fault codes........................ Since this topic was started (2012) it has now become an offence to drive on the highway in a car which doesn't have the emission system installed as when it left the factory.

 

Johndouglas,

 

I started the Thread myself, so all the previous information is above and ecu was modified.

 

Edited 14/5/2015 Moderator.

[TheGoose]

hi goose the anti pollution fault on the display flags up when any one of 5 systems get a fault so i really dont think its anything to do with the dpf side of things  as i know which way you removed it. unfortunatly ul be like a dog chasing its tail without diagnostic help. check the list on the forum to see if theres anybody near you with diagnostic tools or get one of ebay as there quite cheap at the min and you can always sell it on when youve done with it.  

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PP2000-Lexia-3-Diagnostic-Interface-Scaner-Tool-Diagbox-For-Peugeot-Citroen-/331488059447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2e3a6037

 

 

coastline taxis,

 

  Good to hear from you again good buddy!  Its been a while I know, I agree with you on this subject, the error doesnt necessarily relate to the emmission side of things.  Guess il have to get the errors checked, and it might be something silly like a failed sensor etc. I might know a garage who could read them cheap for me.  Don't quote me on this, but wasn't the 2.2Hdi engine used in the C5 heavily modified to try and get it into the new upcoming Euro emmision laws, ahead of the current laws in 2001?  (I am talking about the early 2001 version!)  Hence the reason why once the system IS removed, the emissions are still clean enough to pass Emissions testing?

[paul.h]

I have removed some posts and edited one so the posts remain on topic. This topic needs to be kept since when it was started dpf removal was allowed so there will be cars around that do not have a complete dpf and members with such cars should still be helped. The current MOT systems in place are not designed to detect partial dpf removal but maybe in the future this could change if the government thinks this is necessary. Obviously if somebody now is thinking about removing a dpf the forum will advise against it due to the MOT changes last year. 

 

This topic is now highlighting that if fault codes are generated when a dpf has been partly removed it is possibly not the dpf that is causing it and once TheGoose has had the fault codes read we will all learn something.

[TheGoose]

Ok, I have random "Anti-Pollution" and EML + Service lights which come on.  Sometimes goes into Limp mode, sometimes not.  And EML lights do go out all on there own, completely random, when there out I cannot make them come on.  Then when they do come on its at random times.

 

Now I have purchased a Lexia Kit, running on Windows XP Home 32-bit, I ran Lexia3 V358.01 and scanned for faults in all areas one at a time.  Below I will list what I have come across so far:

 

In the Injection area, P0110 Permanent Fault, Inlet air temperature signal.   CAN value not plausible.

                                  P0402 Permanent Fault, Fault: Air Circuit.  Amount of air measured lower than the setting

                                  P0235 Temporary Fault, Turbo pressure signal.  Short circuit to positive or open circuit or value too high

                                  P0245 Temporary Fault, Turbo pressure.  Turbo pressure measured too high

                                  P0191 Temporary Fault,  Fuel pressure regulator / sensor consistency.  Consistency between fuel regulator current and pressure

And another which I forgot to get the code: Temporary Fault,  Cat. converter upstream temperature signal (cat 1).  Short circuit to + or open circuit

 

Can anyone shed any light on this one?

 

Thanks

 

Mike

[TheGoose]

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